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Talk:Information for Oil City High School meetings

2008-01-08T06:40:47Z

Danielle: TEXAS...

== 11/30/07 practicing posting ==

.......DANIELLYEAGER..... ALEXISMCCOOL... JENNIFERBUTCHART.... 1509 EST

to use an image upload file and then insert using the word Image with a colon after words and then the file name, entire thing surrounded by two closed brackets.

example.

[[Image:graph2.JPG]] 
[nicks image.] [[Image:Graph3.JPG]]

bullet points
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You should be commenting on your progress daily to every other day.

IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR SOMEONE, USE THE FOLLOWING OR A SIMILAR FORMAT.... PERSON'S NAME---type your question.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 11/30/07__2257 est ==

.......DANIELLEYEAGER..........

Access available from fathers house. Security problem under control. It was because of the http's'... does anyone have any questions about the wiki or the practice light curve? post what you can. if you need to, get ahold of me this weekend. Just a quick reminder that all 25 hours must be completly by Friday December 7th.
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST)When posting, rather than typing your name and time, simply click the icon above the Subject/Headling square that looks like a squiggle. It is the second icon from the right. Click that before you start your post, it will post your name date and time for you. and then at the end of the post, simply type [end]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 12:08, 4 December 2007 (PST) This is a very useful tool, so please use it. This is what it looks like on your editing screen:

[[Image:timestamp.jpg]] [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:34, 5 December 2007 (PST) How do you do a screen shot? .. if you go into your preferences and change your 'nickname' it changes what comes up as your name for your signature.[end]

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:17, 7 December 2007 (PST) Perth is down at the moment and has been for a couple of days and will continue to be for an indefinite period of time. This is a very depressing bit of info because it not only sets back the spitzer project as a whole but also sets back my and other individual's projects for the Pittsburgh Regional Science and Engineering Fair.

== Upcoming Meetings ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 12 December 2007 (PST) Today at 2:50 there is a meeting for all Oil City High School participants. I will get on after or during the meeting and post what we covered. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 12:42, 12 December 2007 (PST) Finalized flyer for Pizza Hut. Spuck started on the lay out for the posters. [end]

== Pizza Hut Fundraiser Results ==
--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 12:31, 21 December 2007 (PST) We broke $110!!! Good job to all who participated! [end]

== 12_22 all day meeting ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 06:18, 22 December 2007 (PST) Cale, Nick, Matt, Spuck, and myself are the only ones here. Alexis, Jennifer, and Alix are MIA.

== TEXAS... ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 22:40, 7 January 2008 (PST) We arrived in Austin Texas tonight at 10:42 or so. We are meeting tomorrow morning at 7:30 in the lobby. [end]

Talk:Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2008-01-07T14:06:58Z

Danielle:

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2008-01-02T15:56:18Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the [[Finding cluster members]] page as well as [[Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates]] page . Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 12:22, 21 December 2007 (PST) I think that is a FABULOUS thing to remember when talking to people about the wiki. At this meeting, there will be many more teachers coming on board to the project, so they'll be additional people needing to learn about the project. [END]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:25, 22 December 2007 (PST) This is what I pulled together before I had to leave the all day meeting. [[Image:OCroughdraft.JPG]] comment on what changes you would like to see made. I'll do what I can. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:39, 28 December 2007 (PST) Here's a pdf version of the poster that tim sent around: [[Media:wiki_poster_draft1.pdf]] [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:56, 2 January 2008 (PST) I finally got a chance to review the 'final' draft of the poster and it looks great! There isn't anything major that I would change. [end]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2007-12-22T15:25:29Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the [[Finding cluster members]] page as well as [[Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates]] page . Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 12:22, 21 December 2007 (PST) I think that is a FABULOUS thing to remember when talking to people about the wiki. At this meeting, there will be many more teachers coming on board to the project, so they'll be additional people needing to learn about the project. [END]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:25, 22 December 2007 (PST) This is what I pulled together before I had to leave the all day meeting. [[Image:OCroughdraft.JPG]] comment on what changes you would like to see made. I'll do what I can. [end]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

File:OCroughdraft.JPG

2007-12-22T15:24:06Z

Danielle:

Playground

2007-12-22T15:20:32Z

Danielle:

''if curious as to what was done on this page, click edit to view the formatting that was used.''
 
 

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:37, 12 December 2007 (PST) When posting use the signature option to post date and time. It is the second button from the right in the icons above the posting area.

[[Image:Timestamp.jpg]]
 
 
==Use this space to practice your formatting and posting skills.==
 
 
''two apostrophes''
 
'''three apostrophes'''
 
'''''five apostrophes'''''
 
 
To use an image within your post, you first need to upload it to the wiki. There is a link off to the side of the page that says Upload. Click on upload and it will take you to the page you need. Once uploaded, the page will tell you the title of the image. You need to remember the images' title EXACTLY. All caps and lower cases and spellings are a must! You then use the format(Image:title needs to be within two brackets) [[ Image:EXACT TITLE INCLUDING THE .JPG ]] to post your image.
 
 

[[Link to a new page]]

* one indent [bullet]
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**** so on and so forth

when ending a post type --> [end]

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Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-22T15:19:02Z

Danielle: /* New Mexico Skies */

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about what these observatories are, links to their websites, general information on how to use the facility. Think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 13:16, 19 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, I'll be working on getting some stuff posted up. [end]

== Perth ==
Perth Observatories homepage -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/]
 
Sky Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_sky_camera.html] Your ideal sky conditions are clear. If image appears to be all cleared then more onto Weather Conditions.
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_weather.html] Your ideal weather conditions are clear, with no rain, low humidity, low windspeed. If conditions are good move onto Weather Forecast.
 
Weather Forecast -> [http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/wa/]
 
If all is good, log into telescope [http://perthobservatory.org] or [http://202.72.190.15]
 
 
''email tspuck@hotmail.com for user name and password to perth''

== New Mexico Skies ==
New Mexico Skies homepage -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/index.html]
 
To view New Mexico Skies via sky cam -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/allskycam.html]
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/weather.html]
 
More weather -> [http://www.nmskies.com/fairdinkumwx2.php]

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-22T15:18:24Z

Danielle: /* Perth */

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about what these observatories are, links to their websites, general information on how to use the facility. Think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 13:16, 19 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, I'll be working on getting some stuff posted up. [end]

== Perth ==
Perth Observatories homepage -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/]
 
Sky Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_sky_camera.html] Your ideal sky conditions are clear. If image appears to be all cleared then more onto Weather Conditions.
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_weather.html] Your ideal weather conditions are clear, with no rain, low humidity, low windspeed. If conditions are good move onto Weather Forecast.
 
Weather Forecast -> [http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/wa/]
 
If all is good, log into telescope [http://perthobservatory.org] or [http://202.72.190.15]
 
 
''email tspuck@hotmail.com for user name and password to perth''

== New Mexico Skies ==
New Mexico Skies homepage -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/index.html]
 
To view New Mexico Skies via sky cam click -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/allskycam.html]
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/weather.html]
 
More weather -> [http://www.nmskies.com/fairdinkumwx2.php]

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-22T15:00:46Z

Danielle: /* Perth */

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about what these observatories are, links to their websites, general information on how to use the facility. Think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 13:16, 19 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, I'll be working on getting some stuff posted up. [end]

== Perth ==
Perth Observatories homepage -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/]
 
Sky Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_sky_camera.html]
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au//information/po_weather.html]
 
Weather Forecast -> [http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/wa/]
 
If all is good, log into telescope [http://perthobservatory.org] or [http://202.72.190.15]
 
 
''email tspuck@hotmail.com for user name and password to perth''

== New Mexico Skies ==
New Mexico Skies homepage -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/index.html]
 
To view New Mexico Skies via sky cam click -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/allskycam.html]
 
Weather Conditions -> [http://www.nmskies.com/webpage/weather.html]
 
More weather -> [http://www.nmskies.com/fairdinkumwx2.php]

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2007-12-22T14:48:51Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the [[Finding cluster members]] page as well as [[Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates]] page . Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 12:22, 21 December 2007 (PST) I think that is a FABULOUS thing to remember when talking to people about the wiki. At this meeting, there will be many more teachers coming on board to the project, so they'll be additional people needing to learn about the project. [END]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2007-12-22T14:48:08Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the [[Finding Cluster Members]] page as well as [[Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates]] page . Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 12:22, 21 December 2007 (PST) I think that is a FABULOUS thing to remember when talking to people about the wiki. At this meeting, there will be many more teachers coming on board to the project, so they'll be additional people needing to learn about the project. [END]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

Talk:Information for Oil City High School meetings

2007-12-22T14:18:39Z

Danielle: 12_22 all day meeting

Talk:Information for Oil City High School meetings

2007-12-21T20:31:22Z

Danielle:

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-21T17:35:21Z

Danielle:

Check out the [[Finding cluster members]] page for information about why light curves are beneficial. Also see [[Monitoring young stars]], which is a general introduction to, well, monitoring young stars.

 

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about the big picture -- you have a link to the finding cluster members page, and that's great. but you might also add stuff on, for example, frequently asked questions that you're asking each other during this process. Again, think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

='''Q & A'''=
 
Q - ''Why are light curves important?''
 
A - '''Light curves help to determine variability and rotation rates, both of which can help to determine whether or not candidates are indeed T-Tauri stars.'''

 

Q - ''What is the difference between magnitude and intensity?''
 
A - '''Magnitude and Intensity are both measurenments of brightness.'''

 

Q - ''What is Julian Time?''
 
A - '''Scientific conversion of time.'''

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-21T17:34:56Z

Danielle:

Check out the [[Finding cluster members]] page for information about why light curves are beneficial. Also see [[Monitoring Young Stars]], which is a general introduction to, well, monitoring young stars.

 

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about the big picture -- you have a link to the finding cluster members page, and that's great. but you might also add stuff on, for example, frequently asked questions that you're asking each other during this process. Again, think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

='''Q & A'''=
 
Q - ''Why are light curves important?''
 
A - '''Light curves help to determine variability and rotation rates, both of which can help to determine whether or not candidates are indeed T-Tauri stars.'''

 

Q - ''What is the difference between magnitude and intensity?''
 
A - '''Magnitude and Intensity are both measurenments of brightness.'''

 

Q - ''What is Julian Time?''
 
A - '''Scientific conversion of time.'''

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Talk:Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-20T17:21:06Z

Danielle: /* Practice curve */

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T21:59:15Z

Danielle: /* '''Q & A''' */

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T21:52:55Z

Danielle: /* '''Q & A''' */

Check out the [[Finding cluster members]] page for information about why light curves are beneficial. Also see [[Monitoring young stars]], which is a general introduction to, well, monitoring young stars.

 

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about the big picture -- you have a link to the finding cluster members page, and that's great. but you might also add stuff on, for example, frequently asked questions that you're asking each other during this process. Again, think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

='''Q & A'''=
 
Q - ''Why are light curves important?''
 
A - '''Light curves help to determine variability and rotation rates, both of which can help to determine whether or not candidates are indeed T-Tauri stars.'''

 

Q - ''What is the difference between magnitude and intensity?''
 
A - '''Magnitude and Intensity are both measurenments of brightness.'''

 

Q - ''What is Julian Time?''
 
A - '''Scientific conversion or time.'''

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T21:52:43Z

Danielle:

Check out the [[Finding cluster members]] page for information about why light curves are beneficial. Also see [[Monitoring young stars]], which is a general introduction to, well, monitoring young stars.

 

''Click on the "discussion" tab above to find the conversations about this.''

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:22, 19 December 2007 (PST) Hi guys - i still think it makes sense to have some overview information here, even if you really really really want to keep all the conversations on the 'talk' page.... so put in some stuff here about the big picture -- you have a link to the finding cluster members page, and that's great. but you might also add stuff on, for example, frequently asked questions that you're asking each other during this process. Again, think of yourselves as mentors to the students in California and maybe Texas who will also be working on this project. You need to put enough information here so that they can join in your conversation, or at least understand what it is that you are doing. cheers, luisa [END]

='''Q & A'''=

Q - ''Why are light curves important?''
 
A - '''Light curves help to determine variability and rotation rates, both of which can help to determine whether or not candidates are indeed T-Tauri stars.'''

 

Q - ''What is the difference between magnitude and intensity?''
 
A - '''Magnitude and Intensity are both measurenments of brightness.'''

 

Q - ''What is Julian Time?''
 
A - '''Scientific conversion or time.'''

 
 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T21:18:19Z

Danielle:

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T21:16:13Z

Danielle:

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T21:15:13Z

Danielle: /* New Mexico Skies */

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T21:12:08Z

Danielle: /* New Mexico Skies */

User:Spuck

2007-12-19T17:46:35Z

Danielle:

Timothy Spuck. Oil City High School Teacher.

Talk:Galaxy Classification

2007-12-19T17:43:22Z

Danielle:

== Cale McClintock Log ==

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1333 EST.....

Oct. 18th - 2:30 pm - 3:55 pm (85 minutes)
- My group and I went over the project’s wiki and I created a login name and password for it.

- 7:30 pm - 8:30 pm (60 minutes)
- I created my Galaxyzoo.org account. Afterward, I proceeded to complete the initial quiz on typing galaxies available on the website, which I passed with 100%. After, I began to type the galaxies on the website.

Oct. 20th - 12:05 pm - 3:25 pm (200 minutes)
- During this time, and the time spent for my next three logs, I practiced typing galaxies on Galaxyzoo.org.

Oct. 24th - 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm (120 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Oct. 30th - 9:00 pm - 10:00 pm (60 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 4th - 12:00 pm - 4:00 pm (240 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 13th - 12:05 pm - 1:00 pm (55 minutes)
- Mr. Spuck taught me how to find specific galaxy types in a deep space image taken by the Hubble Telescope. This exercise was meant for practice only; we had to pick out two to four examples of each galaxy category and from that data, we had to create a spreadsheet compiling it all together.
- 1:00 pm - 1:40 pm (40 minutes)
- The team met with Mr. Spuck and discussed our trip to the AAS Conference in Texas.

Nov. 27th - 12:30 pm - 1:40 pm (70 minutes)
- In this hour and ten minutes, I learned, from Mr. Spuck, how to go in and rename the CFHT Images we will be working with. We need to rename them so we can easily find which sector of the galaxy they are in.

- 4:00 pm - 5:10 pm (70 minutes)
- During this session, I managed to finish my Hubble Image spreadsheet.

Nov. 30th - 12:45 pm – 1:40 pm (55 minutes)
- I started renaming image files taken from the CFHT Telescope during this session. Along with this time slot, the next four are also applied for renaming.

Dec. 1st - 6:50 pm - 12:00 am (310 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th

Dec. 2nd - 12:00 am - 12:35 am (35 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 11:30 am - 2:00 pm (150 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 7:00 pm - 8:15 pm (75 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm (180 minutes)
- During this time, I started preparing my log sheets for the AAS Conference.

Dec. 3rd - 12:30 pm - ( minutes)
- I worked more on pulling my log together and becoming more organized.

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

Hi Cale - this is Luisa ... are you sure you're working with Hubble images? And here's another question to get you thinking. You noted that you're renaming the images to figure out "which sector of the galaxy they are in". How big are all of these images you're working with? Are they the size of, say, a quarter held at arm's length? or a pea? or a sheet of notebook paper? (bonus question: how big are Hubble images, on the same scale?)
--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 15:39, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Hi Luisa! I realize now that I'm working with are from CFHT...not Hubble. Sorry! Also, the images' size is a mystery to me. Mr. Spuck just explained the "fist width=ten dgrees"...which i thought was VERY interesting! I'm not sure how big the images are realtive to degrees, but Mr. Spuck is going to show me the conversions later!
13:43, 5 DECEMBER 2007 (EST)

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 11:16, 5 December 2007 (PST) HI again Cale - Well, I'll give you a hint re: the images -- just something to think about until you meet with Mr. Spuck later. What are the units of right ascension? what are the units of declination? And if you really want to make your head hurt while you wait, look at a regular globe of the Earth, and the latitude and longitude on there. How big is (e.g., how long would you have to drive to cover) 15 degrees of ''longitude'' near Ecuador? Is it the same as it is in northern Canada? What about ''latitude?'' Do you see how this is going to matter when you are thinking about how much area the astronomical images cover in RA and Dec? [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 13:03, 6 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, to answer your quiz, Right Ascension and Declination are measured in arc hours/degrees, arc minutes, and arc seconds. also, Mr. Spuck talked to me and showed me the conversions and such to change the amuont of pixels to the number of degrees. basically, what it came down to was that one of our images is 1/16th by 1/8th of the width of your index finger...held at arms length of course. pretty small if you ask me. so, its basically the size of half of the width of a #2 pencil's lead [graphite]. thats just my guess though.

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 17:06, 10 December 2007 (PST) So yes, you got the point - these are small fields of view! And to think that for professional astronomical cameras, that's a BIG field of view! Hubble's field of view with WFPC2 (the most famous instrument) is about 2 arcminutes on a side. Yes, arcminutes. Spitzer's imaging cameras have a single field of view of 5 arcminutes on a side, which is HUMONGOUS for infrared cameras! It is tough to make good astronomical-quality CCDs that are big enough to cover a large field of view - in fact, the CFHT images are actually small ARRAYS of CCDs. However, every cameraphone or other digital camera you buy helps push along CCD technology, and eventually that does have a positive effect on astronomical CCDs -- even though an astronomical CCD is a different sort of thing than what you find in a commercially available CCD camera, some of the technology (industry) developments do help with making bigger and better astronomical CCDs. But now you understand why I was asking this stuff, when you noted above that you were keeping track of which "sector of the galaxy." These are all in the same "sector of the galaxy"! :) [END]

== Wiki Highlights ==

'''''UPDATE ON WHERE TO POST FOR THE POSTERS'''''

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:57, 5 December 2007 (PST) [the following was a post of Spucks that I copied and pasted here for you so you have access to it.]--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks. [end]

......... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1339 EST....

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

You should be going through the wiki, now that you are becoming more familiar with its features, and identifying pages or sources that you think are highly beneficial that you think should be going onto the wiki. You may post them on this thread, simply remember your titles.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 08:31, 6 December 2007 (PST)
*I need the image as a FITS file, how can I get this?

== 12/4/07_1255 est ==

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1255 est......

I dont know what to do on here.

What exactly am i supposed to be doing?

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07_1326 EST

You should be posting your progress and any questions you have.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1352 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST)When posting, rather than typing your name and time, simply click the icon above the Subject/Headling square that looks like a squiggle. It is the second icon from the right. Click that before you start your post, it will post your name date and time for you. and then at the end of the post, simply type [end]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:00, 4 December 2007 (PST)Hey this is my first time posting am I doing it right? Um as far as progress I am working on renaming the images that did not get burned to my disc correctly, I am also trying to finish my outline of chapter 14 and then begining chapter 15 to complete my hours. If this post looks ok please let me know. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:05, 4 December 2007 (PST)Me again Dani do you want me to post every single thing that I have done with Spitzer in here to show my hours? [end]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 16:52, 4 December 2007 (PST) My flash drive is being retarded, I'm trying to load everything on here but it's not working. I'm going to continue taking notes on chapter 14 & 15 soon. I clicked that squiggly thing. I hope it works. [END]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 17:36, 4 December 2007 (PST)https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/images/4/4b/Emspec.jpg I figured since we were talking about this in Mr. Spucks room yesterday, we could use it on here. Going to upload my notes to the Wiki tomorrow.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:24, 5 December 2007 (PST) Your posts look great. I assume you're starting to pick up fairly well how to operate the wiki? '''ALEXIS''' - You do not need to type up your entire log sheet, but if you wish to have it on here, you may do so. '''JENNIFER''' - Good use of graphixs! Deffinatly try to do graphics in paint to have visuals along with the notes. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:54, 5 December 2007 (PST) You just need to post about the progress you are making. What exactly you have accomplished, what gave you trouble, any little tips or anything you have. Take a look at both Jennifers and Alexis' posts. It's not as if your life depends on what you post, just let us know what it is you have done, how you did it, so on and so forth. [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale]] 10:10, 5 December 2007 (PST) So i finally finished renaming the renaming messes that were made. ugh. It was tedious, but im glad that its done.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:18, 5 December 2007 (PST) Alright, now that you know how to post, remember you need to be posting individual threads with their own titles. Also, check the new addition to the post about the wiki poster that I put on your Galaxy page. And remember to use -->[end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:45, 5 December 2007 (PST) Cale, if you are looking for something to do, I buried some questions for you in your first posting above... :) [end] updated a second later, literally: oh, i think we were editing the same page at the same instant....

== 12/5/07_13:45 (EST) ==

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)

After Mr. Spuck cleared up the whole "wrong telescope" deal, i found this website, which is for the telescope we do use.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/

pretty interesting.
[END]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 16:37, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Cale - I'm glad you sorted out the CFHT stuff! :) The CFHT is only one telescope of the many that are used in this project.
In addition to CFHT on Mauna Kea (Hawaii), you have data from [http://www.sdss.org SDSS] (and that telescope is located at [http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/ Apache Point], New Mexico). And, of course, you have [http://ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/ Spitzer] data, as well as data from [http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/ 2MASS]. (There were two 2mass telescopes, both of which have been decommissioned and moved, but one was on Mt. Hopkins in Arizona, and the other on Cerro Tololo, Chile.) There is a large group of scientists working on the Taurus project, and we also have data from [http://xmm.vilspa.esa.es/ XMM] and [http://www.astro.umass.edu/~fcrao/ FCRAO], but I don't think I gave Mr. Spuck all of those data along with the optical and infrared data -- I don't have the images myself from those telescopes. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 10:44, 6 December 2007 (PST)I finally finished all of the renaming that was screwed up today. I will post my log sheet up here as soon as I get a chance. [END]

Talk:Galaxy Classification

2007-12-19T17:42:58Z

Danielle: /* Cale McClintock Log = */

= Cale McClintock Log =

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1333 EST.....

Oct. 18th - 2:30 pm - 3:55 pm (85 minutes)
- My group and I went over the project’s wiki and I created a login name and password for it.

- 7:30 pm - 8:30 pm (60 minutes)
- I created my Galaxyzoo.org account. Afterward, I proceeded to complete the initial quiz on typing galaxies available on the website, which I passed with 100%. After, I began to type the galaxies on the website.

Oct. 20th - 12:05 pm - 3:25 pm (200 minutes)
- During this time, and the time spent for my next three logs, I practiced typing galaxies on Galaxyzoo.org.

Oct. 24th - 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm (120 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Oct. 30th - 9:00 pm - 10:00 pm (60 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 4th - 12:00 pm - 4:00 pm (240 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 13th - 12:05 pm - 1:00 pm (55 minutes)
- Mr. Spuck taught me how to find specific galaxy types in a deep space image taken by the Hubble Telescope. This exercise was meant for practice only; we had to pick out two to four examples of each galaxy category and from that data, we had to create a spreadsheet compiling it all together.
- 1:00 pm - 1:40 pm (40 minutes)
- The team met with Mr. Spuck and discussed our trip to the AAS Conference in Texas.

Nov. 27th - 12:30 pm - 1:40 pm (70 minutes)
- In this hour and ten minutes, I learned, from Mr. Spuck, how to go in and rename the CFHT Images we will be working with. We need to rename them so we can easily find which sector of the galaxy they are in.

- 4:00 pm - 5:10 pm (70 minutes)
- During this session, I managed to finish my Hubble Image spreadsheet.

Nov. 30th - 12:45 pm – 1:40 pm (55 minutes)
- I started renaming image files taken from the CFHT Telescope during this session. Along with this time slot, the next four are also applied for renaming.

Dec. 1st - 6:50 pm - 12:00 am (310 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th

Dec. 2nd - 12:00 am - 12:35 am (35 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 11:30 am - 2:00 pm (150 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 7:00 pm - 8:15 pm (75 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm (180 minutes)
- During this time, I started preparing my log sheets for the AAS Conference.

Dec. 3rd - 12:30 pm - ( minutes)
- I worked more on pulling my log together and becoming more organized.

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

Hi Cale - this is Luisa ... are you sure you're working with Hubble images? And here's another question to get you thinking. You noted that you're renaming the images to figure out "which sector of the galaxy they are in". How big are all of these images you're working with? Are they the size of, say, a quarter held at arm's length? or a pea? or a sheet of notebook paper? (bonus question: how big are Hubble images, on the same scale?)
--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 15:39, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Hi Luisa! I realize now that I'm working with are from CFHT...not Hubble. Sorry! Also, the images' size is a mystery to me. Mr. Spuck just explained the "fist width=ten dgrees"...which i thought was VERY interesting! I'm not sure how big the images are realtive to degrees, but Mr. Spuck is going to show me the conversions later!
13:43, 5 DECEMBER 2007 (EST)

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 11:16, 5 December 2007 (PST) HI again Cale - Well, I'll give you a hint re: the images -- just something to think about until you meet with Mr. Spuck later. What are the units of right ascension? what are the units of declination? And if you really want to make your head hurt while you wait, look at a regular globe of the Earth, and the latitude and longitude on there. How big is (e.g., how long would you have to drive to cover) 15 degrees of ''longitude'' near Ecuador? Is it the same as it is in northern Canada? What about ''latitude?'' Do you see how this is going to matter when you are thinking about how much area the astronomical images cover in RA and Dec? [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 13:03, 6 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, to answer your quiz, Right Ascension and Declination are measured in arc hours/degrees, arc minutes, and arc seconds. also, Mr. Spuck talked to me and showed me the conversions and such to change the amuont of pixels to the number of degrees. basically, what it came down to was that one of our images is 1/16th by 1/8th of the width of your index finger...held at arms length of course. pretty small if you ask me. so, its basically the size of half of the width of a #2 pencil's lead [graphite]. thats just my guess though.

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 17:06, 10 December 2007 (PST) So yes, you got the point - these are small fields of view! And to think that for professional astronomical cameras, that's a BIG field of view! Hubble's field of view with WFPC2 (the most famous instrument) is about 2 arcminutes on a side. Yes, arcminutes. Spitzer's imaging cameras have a single field of view of 5 arcminutes on a side, which is HUMONGOUS for infrared cameras! It is tough to make good astronomical-quality CCDs that are big enough to cover a large field of view - in fact, the CFHT images are actually small ARRAYS of CCDs. However, every cameraphone or other digital camera you buy helps push along CCD technology, and eventually that does have a positive effect on astronomical CCDs -- even though an astronomical CCD is a different sort of thing than what you find in a commercially available CCD camera, some of the technology (industry) developments do help with making bigger and better astronomical CCDs. But now you understand why I was asking this stuff, when you noted above that you were keeping track of which "sector of the galaxy." These are all in the same "sector of the galaxy"! :) [END]

== Wiki Highlights ==

'''''UPDATE ON WHERE TO POST FOR THE POSTERS'''''

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:57, 5 December 2007 (PST) [the following was a post of Spucks that I copied and pasted here for you so you have access to it.]--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks. [end]

......... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1339 EST....

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

You should be going through the wiki, now that you are becoming more familiar with its features, and identifying pages or sources that you think are highly beneficial that you think should be going onto the wiki. You may post them on this thread, simply remember your titles.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 08:31, 6 December 2007 (PST)
*I need the image as a FITS file, how can I get this?

== 12/4/07_1255 est ==

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1255 est......

I dont know what to do on here.

What exactly am i supposed to be doing?

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07_1326 EST

You should be posting your progress and any questions you have.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1352 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST)When posting, rather than typing your name and time, simply click the icon above the Subject/Headling square that looks like a squiggle. It is the second icon from the right. Click that before you start your post, it will post your name date and time for you. and then at the end of the post, simply type [end]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:00, 4 December 2007 (PST)Hey this is my first time posting am I doing it right? Um as far as progress I am working on renaming the images that did not get burned to my disc correctly, I am also trying to finish my outline of chapter 14 and then begining chapter 15 to complete my hours. If this post looks ok please let me know. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:05, 4 December 2007 (PST)Me again Dani do you want me to post every single thing that I have done with Spitzer in here to show my hours? [end]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 16:52, 4 December 2007 (PST) My flash drive is being retarded, I'm trying to load everything on here but it's not working. I'm going to continue taking notes on chapter 14 & 15 soon. I clicked that squiggly thing. I hope it works. [END]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 17:36, 4 December 2007 (PST)https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/images/4/4b/Emspec.jpg I figured since we were talking about this in Mr. Spucks room yesterday, we could use it on here. Going to upload my notes to the Wiki tomorrow.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:24, 5 December 2007 (PST) Your posts look great. I assume you're starting to pick up fairly well how to operate the wiki? '''ALEXIS''' - You do not need to type up your entire log sheet, but if you wish to have it on here, you may do so. '''JENNIFER''' - Good use of graphixs! Deffinatly try to do graphics in paint to have visuals along with the notes. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:54, 5 December 2007 (PST) You just need to post about the progress you are making. What exactly you have accomplished, what gave you trouble, any little tips or anything you have. Take a look at both Jennifers and Alexis' posts. It's not as if your life depends on what you post, just let us know what it is you have done, how you did it, so on and so forth. [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale]] 10:10, 5 December 2007 (PST) So i finally finished renaming the renaming messes that were made. ugh. It was tedious, but im glad that its done.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:18, 5 December 2007 (PST) Alright, now that you know how to post, remember you need to be posting individual threads with their own titles. Also, check the new addition to the post about the wiki poster that I put on your Galaxy page. And remember to use -->[end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:45, 5 December 2007 (PST) Cale, if you are looking for something to do, I buried some questions for you in your first posting above... :) [end] updated a second later, literally: oh, i think we were editing the same page at the same instant....

== 12/5/07_13:45 (EST) ==

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)

After Mr. Spuck cleared up the whole "wrong telescope" deal, i found this website, which is for the telescope we do use.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/

pretty interesting.
[END]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 16:37, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Cale - I'm glad you sorted out the CFHT stuff! :) The CFHT is only one telescope of the many that are used in this project.
In addition to CFHT on Mauna Kea (Hawaii), you have data from [http://www.sdss.org SDSS] (and that telescope is located at [http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/ Apache Point], New Mexico). And, of course, you have [http://ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/ Spitzer] data, as well as data from [http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/ 2MASS]. (There were two 2mass telescopes, both of which have been decommissioned and moved, but one was on Mt. Hopkins in Arizona, and the other on Cerro Tololo, Chile.) There is a large group of scientists working on the Taurus project, and we also have data from [http://xmm.vilspa.esa.es/ XMM] and [http://www.astro.umass.edu/~fcrao/ FCRAO], but I don't think I gave Mr. Spuck all of those data along with the optical and infrared data -- I don't have the images myself from those telescopes. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 10:44, 6 December 2007 (PST)I finally finished all of the renaming that was screwed up today. I will post my log sheet up here as soon as I get a chance. [END]

Talk:Galaxy Classification

2007-12-19T17:42:49Z

Danielle:

= Cale McClintock Log ==

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1333 EST.....

Oct. 18th - 2:30 pm - 3:55 pm (85 minutes)
- My group and I went over the project’s wiki and I created a login name and password for it.

- 7:30 pm - 8:30 pm (60 minutes)
- I created my Galaxyzoo.org account. Afterward, I proceeded to complete the initial quiz on typing galaxies available on the website, which I passed with 100%. After, I began to type the galaxies on the website.

Oct. 20th - 12:05 pm - 3:25 pm (200 minutes)
- During this time, and the time spent for my next three logs, I practiced typing galaxies on Galaxyzoo.org.

Oct. 24th - 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm (120 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Oct. 30th - 9:00 pm - 10:00 pm (60 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 4th - 12:00 pm - 4:00 pm (240 minutes)
- See Oct. 20th

Nov. 13th - 12:05 pm - 1:00 pm (55 minutes)
- Mr. Spuck taught me how to find specific galaxy types in a deep space image taken by the Hubble Telescope. This exercise was meant for practice only; we had to pick out two to four examples of each galaxy category and from that data, we had to create a spreadsheet compiling it all together.
- 1:00 pm - 1:40 pm (40 minutes)
- The team met with Mr. Spuck and discussed our trip to the AAS Conference in Texas.

Nov. 27th - 12:30 pm - 1:40 pm (70 minutes)
- In this hour and ten minutes, I learned, from Mr. Spuck, how to go in and rename the CFHT Images we will be working with. We need to rename them so we can easily find which sector of the galaxy they are in.

- 4:00 pm - 5:10 pm (70 minutes)
- During this session, I managed to finish my Hubble Image spreadsheet.

Nov. 30th - 12:45 pm – 1:40 pm (55 minutes)
- I started renaming image files taken from the CFHT Telescope during this session. Along with this time slot, the next four are also applied for renaming.

Dec. 1st - 6:50 pm - 12:00 am (310 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th

Dec. 2nd - 12:00 am - 12:35 am (35 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 11:30 am - 2:00 pm (150 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 7:00 pm - 8:15 pm (75 minutes)
- See Nov. 30th
- 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm (180 minutes)
- During this time, I started preparing my log sheets for the AAS Conference.

Dec. 3rd - 12:30 pm - ( minutes)
- I worked more on pulling my log together and becoming more organized.

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

Hi Cale - this is Luisa ... are you sure you're working with Hubble images? And here's another question to get you thinking. You noted that you're renaming the images to figure out "which sector of the galaxy they are in". How big are all of these images you're working with? Are they the size of, say, a quarter held at arm's length? or a pea? or a sheet of notebook paper? (bonus question: how big are Hubble images, on the same scale?)
--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 15:39, 4 December 2007 (PST)

Hi Luisa! I realize now that I'm working with are from CFHT...not Hubble. Sorry! Also, the images' size is a mystery to me. Mr. Spuck just explained the "fist width=ten dgrees"...which i thought was VERY interesting! I'm not sure how big the images are realtive to degrees, but Mr. Spuck is going to show me the conversions later!
13:43, 5 DECEMBER 2007 (EST)

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 11:16, 5 December 2007 (PST) HI again Cale - Well, I'll give you a hint re: the images -- just something to think about until you meet with Mr. Spuck later. What are the units of right ascension? what are the units of declination? And if you really want to make your head hurt while you wait, look at a regular globe of the Earth, and the latitude and longitude on there. How big is (e.g., how long would you have to drive to cover) 15 degrees of ''longitude'' near Ecuador? Is it the same as it is in northern Canada? What about ''latitude?'' Do you see how this is going to matter when you are thinking about how much area the astronomical images cover in RA and Dec? [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 13:03, 6 December 2007 (PST) Luisa, to answer your quiz, Right Ascension and Declination are measured in arc hours/degrees, arc minutes, and arc seconds. also, Mr. Spuck talked to me and showed me the conversions and such to change the amuont of pixels to the number of degrees. basically, what it came down to was that one of our images is 1/16th by 1/8th of the width of your index finger...held at arms length of course. pretty small if you ask me. so, its basically the size of half of the width of a #2 pencil's lead [graphite]. thats just my guess though.

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 17:06, 10 December 2007 (PST) So yes, you got the point - these are small fields of view! And to think that for professional astronomical cameras, that's a BIG field of view! Hubble's field of view with WFPC2 (the most famous instrument) is about 2 arcminutes on a side. Yes, arcminutes. Spitzer's imaging cameras have a single field of view of 5 arcminutes on a side, which is HUMONGOUS for infrared cameras! It is tough to make good astronomical-quality CCDs that are big enough to cover a large field of view - in fact, the CFHT images are actually small ARRAYS of CCDs. However, every cameraphone or other digital camera you buy helps push along CCD technology, and eventually that does have a positive effect on astronomical CCDs -- even though an astronomical CCD is a different sort of thing than what you find in a commercially available CCD camera, some of the technology (industry) developments do help with making bigger and better astronomical CCDs. But now you understand why I was asking this stuff, when you noted above that you were keeping track of which "sector of the galaxy." These are all in the same "sector of the galaxy"! :) [END]

== Wiki Highlights ==

'''''UPDATE ON WHERE TO POST FOR THE POSTERS'''''

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:57, 5 December 2007 (PST) [the following was a post of Spucks that I copied and pasted here for you so you have access to it.]--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks. [end]

......... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1339 EST....

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

You should be going through the wiki, now that you are becoming more familiar with its features, and identifying pages or sources that you think are highly beneficial that you think should be going onto the wiki. You may post them on this thread, simply remember your titles.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 08:31, 6 December 2007 (PST)
*I need the image as a FITS file, how can I get this?

== 12/4/07_1255 est ==

......CALEMCCLINTOCK 1255 est......

I dont know what to do on here.

What exactly am i supposed to be doing?

[END OF CALEMCCLINTOCK POST.]

... DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07_1326 EST

You should be posting your progress and any questions you have.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1352 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST)When posting, rather than typing your name and time, simply click the icon above the Subject/Headling square that looks like a squiggle. It is the second icon from the right. Click that before you start your post, it will post your name date and time for you. and then at the end of the post, simply type [end]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:00, 4 December 2007 (PST)Hey this is my first time posting am I doing it right? Um as far as progress I am working on renaming the images that did not get burned to my disc correctly, I am also trying to finish my outline of chapter 14 and then begining chapter 15 to complete my hours. If this post looks ok please let me know. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 12:05, 4 December 2007 (PST)Me again Dani do you want me to post every single thing that I have done with Spitzer in here to show my hours? [end]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 16:52, 4 December 2007 (PST) My flash drive is being retarded, I'm trying to load everything on here but it's not working. I'm going to continue taking notes on chapter 14 & 15 soon. I clicked that squiggly thing. I hope it works. [END]

--[[User:Jbutchart|Jbutchart]] 17:36, 4 December 2007 (PST)https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/images/4/4b/Emspec.jpg I figured since we were talking about this in Mr. Spucks room yesterday, we could use it on here. Going to upload my notes to the Wiki tomorrow.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:24, 5 December 2007 (PST) Your posts look great. I assume you're starting to pick up fairly well how to operate the wiki? '''ALEXIS''' - You do not need to type up your entire log sheet, but if you wish to have it on here, you may do so. '''JENNIFER''' - Good use of graphixs! Deffinatly try to do graphics in paint to have visuals along with the notes. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:54, 5 December 2007 (PST) You just need to post about the progress you are making. What exactly you have accomplished, what gave you trouble, any little tips or anything you have. Take a look at both Jennifers and Alexis' posts. It's not as if your life depends on what you post, just let us know what it is you have done, how you did it, so on and so forth. [end]

--[[User:Cale|Cale]] 10:10, 5 December 2007 (PST) So i finally finished renaming the renaming messes that were made. ugh. It was tedious, but im glad that its done.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:18, 5 December 2007 (PST) Alright, now that you know how to post, remember you need to be posting individual threads with their own titles. Also, check the new addition to the post about the wiki poster that I put on your Galaxy page. And remember to use -->[end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 10:45, 5 December 2007 (PST) Cale, if you are looking for something to do, I buried some questions for you in your first posting above... :) [end] updated a second later, literally: oh, i think we were editing the same page at the same instant....

== 12/5/07_13:45 (EST) ==

--[[User:Cale|Cale McClintock]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)

After Mr. Spuck cleared up the whole "wrong telescope" deal, i found this website, which is for the telescope we do use.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/

pretty interesting.
[END]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 16:37, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Cale - I'm glad you sorted out the CFHT stuff! :) The CFHT is only one telescope of the many that are used in this project.
In addition to CFHT on Mauna Kea (Hawaii), you have data from [http://www.sdss.org SDSS] (and that telescope is located at [http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/ Apache Point], New Mexico). And, of course, you have [http://ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/ Spitzer] data, as well as data from [http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/ 2MASS]. (There were two 2mass telescopes, both of which have been decommissioned and moved, but one was on Mt. Hopkins in Arizona, and the other on Cerro Tololo, Chile.) There is a large group of scientists working on the Taurus project, and we also have data from [http://xmm.vilspa.esa.es/ XMM] and [http://www.astro.umass.edu/~fcrao/ FCRAO], but I don't think I gave Mr. Spuck all of those data along with the optical and infrared data -- I don't have the images myself from those telescopes. [END]

--[[User:Amccool|Amccool]] 10:44, 6 December 2007 (PST)I finally finished all of the renaming that was screwed up today. I will post my log sheet up here as soon as I get a chance. [END]

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T17:40:30Z

Danielle:

Check out the [[Finding cluster members]] page for information about why Light Curves are beneficial.

 

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Talk:Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T17:39:11Z

Danielle: /* Nick's Project */

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T17:38:55Z

Danielle:

[[Finding cluster members]]

Talk:Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T17:37:06Z

Danielle:

Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates

2007-12-19T17:37:00Z

Danielle:

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T17:36:37Z

Danielle:

== Perth ==

== New Mexico Skies ==

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T17:35:56Z

Danielle:

== Perth ==

== New Mexico Skies ==

Talk:Galaxy Identification in the Taurus Field

2007-12-19T17:34:48Z

Danielle:

== 12/02/07_1554 est ==

...DANIELLEYEAGER....

Jennifer, good job on posting, but from now on, please try to open up a new thread unless what you are posting applys directly to the previous post. Did you have any problems posting?

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

'''12/3/07_2048 est'''
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

....JENNIFERBUTCHART.... 1500EST

TODAY I HAVE BEEN ON GALAXY ZOO IDENTIFYING GALAXIES. ALSO, I HAVE STARTED WORKING ON NAMING THE .FITS FILES THAT MR. SPUCK GAVE ME. I AM STILL HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THE Sb GALAXIES BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING IS OKAY.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:07, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, FYI discussions on the Taurus Galaxy project will now take place in a different part of the Wiki. Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page]. And know you should not have known that at this point :). Thanks.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

--[[User:Amccool|Alexis McCool]] 10:44, 18 December 2007 (PST) I've been working on the Tau10 field (ch1 long image). Here is a "sweet" galaxy I've found.

[[image:galaxy1_tau10.jpg]]

[END]

Galaxy Identification in the Taurus Field

2007-12-19T17:34:43Z

Danielle:

This project is not directly related to the IC 2118 research. However, as with the IC 2118 project, it is an attempt to involve high school students in meaningful, real-time, astronomical research. A 44-square-degree area of the Taurus cloud was mapped by the Spitzer Space Telescope using the IRAC and MIPS cameras. The primary reason for mapping the Taurus region is to identify YSO's. There are many resolved galaxies in this field that have been captured. Having trained students analyze these images and identify galaxies serves two purposes. First it will allow the primary research team to more easily distinguish candidate Taurus association members from resolved galaxies. And second, where galaxies lack classification data, students will assist by providing thumbnail images at multiple wavelengths and offer a Hubble Sequence classification recommendation based on their analysis of the data.

The Spitzer data is publicly available, because the Taurus program is a Legacy project, but this project also has many many Gigabytes of supporting optical data, which is proprietary, and which the team has generously agreed to share with the students.

'''This area of the Wiki is devoted to information and discussions concerning this ongoing analysis of the Taurus field.'''

Useful links:
*[http://ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/legacy/ General description of Legacy projects in general]
*[http://ssc.spitzer.caltech.edu/legacy/taurushistory.html Available legacy products for the Taurus team]
*[http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/dlp/taurus/ General, simple page on Taurus project]
*[https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification General introductory information on galaxy classification using Spitzer data]

Go back to [[IC 2118 Current Research Activities]].

Talk:Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T17:29:51Z

Danielle:

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-19T17:29:45Z

Danielle:

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2007-12-19T15:24:08Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the "Finding Cluster Members" page as well as "Making Light Curves for our YSO Candidates"page . Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

Talk:Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster

2007-12-19T15:21:40Z

Danielle: /* Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster */

== Front Page Information ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:50, 5 December 2007 (PST) As of now, I have a very short and simple statement on the front page of this area of the wiki. If you don't know what I mean, I mean the article section for 'Working area for AAS jan 2008 poster'... Who all is going to be presenting it? What exactly is the abstract? What information to we currently have that I can post out on the main/article page. [end]

--[[User:Rebull|Rebull]] 14:25, 5 December 2007 (PST) Hi Danielle - I just went ahead and updated it. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:24, 6 December 2007 (PST) Thank you very much! [end]

== Highlights for Wiki AAS Poster ==

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 07:19, 5 December 2007 (PST) this is just copied and pasted over from the IC 2118 thread.

....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1036 est....

Newest part of the project = Find 'interesting' or 'important' parts of the wiki to highlight on poster. You can post parts you would like to use in this thread. ''[If you don't remember how to post on a particular thread, you click edit to the left of the heading of the thread you want to post. If you want to start a new thread, scroll to the top and click on the + (plus) sign beside the tab for edit. And as always, if you have questions on the wiki, type my name in caps and then your question.]''

Example / Rough Draft of poster.

[[Image:Slide1.JPG]]

[END OF INTRODUCTION, POST BELOW.]
___________________________________________________________________________

.....DANIELLEYEAGER 12/03/07 1253 EST...

*Basics on the fact that you are working on real research, and at the same time it is an informational, so if you have questions, nine times out of ten, the information is right there for you to get and work with. [Main page.]

*A lot of time we work with IR and if someone didn’t know what IR is, we have a section specifically noted for that. [Main Page, section 3]

*Future research project, Galaxy Classifications.

*Main page section 8.

*Users Guide on the bottom of the Main Page.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Nick Kelley 12/03/07 1342 est

*Past T-Tauri work.

*Things the wiki allows use to do better.

*Interaction with other students

*Allows real Scientific work to be done by students.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:55, 4 December 2007 (PST) These are great ideas ... keep them coming. Also we have a knew location in the WIKI for posting ideas for the 2008 AAS Wiki poster ideas and work items. SO, please post at the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Working_area_for_AAS_jan_2008_poster AAS Wiki Poster Page] in the future. Thanks.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:48, 5 December 2007 (PST)
*Finding cluster members

*The playground

*How can I find already-reduced Spitzer data?

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:40, 6 December 2007 (PST) It would also be very nice if other people contributed to Ideas.

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST) Yes, Nick, it would be nice if other people contributed, but until they do, it's important that we continue to research and post. The most important feature is that a non-user[meaning, someone without a user name and password to the page] can get more information from the site than they more than likely know what to do with and the fact that the authors are talking 'behind the scenes', what we know as the discusion sections, and the site evolves and shifts as the projects progress.

--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:13, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, this is what I've been preparing for the poster. Tell me if I need more detail, less detail, or edit how you see fit--Cindy [[Media:ourdraft.ppt]]

--[[User:Sepulveda|Sepulveda]] 14:44, 15 December 2007 (PST) Hi, here is what Esseim and I have been working on: [[Media:Research Tools on the wiki.ppt]]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 07:21, 19 December 2007 (PST) I think that Rachele Siegel is a wonderful example as to what the wiki is all about. I sat with her last night and threw all kinds of information at her about the project and everything it includes including the t-tauri monitering. I used two pages off of the wiki to help teach her. I used the 'Finding Cluster Members' page as well as the page about producing light curves. Is it possible to incorporate that at all onto the poster? Or maybe just have it as a kind of conversational piece when presenting? [end]

== Highlights for Galaxy Poster ==
Researchers and presenters for the galaxy project include Cale McClintock, Jennifer Butchart, Alexis McCool and Alix Holcomb.
The poster will be presented at the upcoming AAS meeting in Austin Texas.

== Highlights for WZ Sge Poster ==

WZSge is an eclipsing binary star system composed of a white dwarf(serving as the primary star) and a brown dwarf(which serves as a secondary star). This is a close orbital binary star system with only an 82 minute orbital period. What is happening in WZSge is the white dwarf is stripping material away from the brown dwarf, however due to angular momentum the material is not falling directly into the white dwarf it is falling into an accretion disk which surrounds the white dwarf. This accrection disk is so bright that when WZSge is imaged in the optical we are not actually seeing the white dwarf but in fact the accretion disk which surrounds it. In the optical we can see by generating a light curve that the brown dwarf eclipses in front of the white dwarf and its accretion disk. However the current phenomena of WZSge is that an eclipse is visible in the IR (at both 4.5 and 8 microns).

Researchers for this project include:
Steve Howell NOAO WIYN, Don Hoard SSC Harvey Mudd, J.M. Santiago and Jeff Adkins Deer Valley High School, Kimmerly Johnson and Beth Thomas, Matt Walentosky and Tim Spuck Oil City High School.

The poster "WZSge: Dark Matter in Accretion Disks" will be presented at the 211th annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Austin Texas this coming January.
--[[User:Weehler|Weehler]] 18:19, 15 December 2007 (PST)

Talk:Information for Oil City High School meetings

2007-12-19T15:15:36Z

Danielle:

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T15:07:16Z

Danielle:

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T15:06:37Z

Danielle: /* 12/04/07 1349 est */

== Targets for IC2118 ==

MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ?
283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s

SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S
200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s

ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ?
408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s

DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S
412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S
414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s

NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S
416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s

CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S
434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s

== participants ==

'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''

''mattheath''

''mattwalentosky''

''sandywieser''

''alexismcCool''

''daniyeager''

''calemcClintock''

''nickkelley''

where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.

Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.

== 12/02/07_1604 est ==

....DANIELLEYEAGER......

Tried to get on perth and take some images. Telescope was in use by perth. I did go into the images we have already taken and saved some of the images titled Daniscandidates to my personal computer. I don't really know what to do with them though. How many pictures do we have that are focused on my center? Should I start getting the data pulled together and working on my real light curve now that I am finished with my practice light curve? Or should I simply focus on mastering the wiki?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, you're doing a great job with the Wiki. Unfortunately the Perth Telescope is down for now. I just found out today that the RA motor went bad in the mount. I will post more news as I get it. We will probably have to start using New Mexico Skies telescope for our observations. This means being up at 2:00 AM EST ... any volunteers? For now, why don't you focus on working with the rest of the team ... bringing them up to spped on how to access and use the Wiki, as well as working through the Wiki to see what we should focus on in our AAS Poster.

1615 est

While trying to save over my images, when clicked, some files opened to a page showing the picture directly, where as others had a prompt coming up asking whether I wanted to find the image or save the image. Why?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, I'm not sure. WHy don't you show me this when you have a chance. Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

==12/3/07_2048 est==
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:13, 11 December 2007 (PST) Perth is still down and therefore we have decided to try and make the switch to New Mexico Skies to finish collecting data to get better light curves.

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T15:05:54Z

Danielle:

== Targets for IC2118 ==

MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ?
283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s

SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S
200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s

ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ?
408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s

DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S
412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S
414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s

NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S
416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s

CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S
434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s

== participants ==

'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''

''mattheath''

''mattwalentosky''

''sandywieser''

''alexismcCool''

''daniyeager''

''calemcClintock''

''nickkelley''

where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.

Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.

== 12/02/07_1604 est ==

....DANIELLEYEAGER......

Tried to get on perth and take some images. Telescope was in use by perth. I did go into the images we have already taken and saved some of the images titled Daniscandidates to my personal computer. I don't really know what to do with them though. How many pictures do we have that are focused on my center? Should I start getting the data pulled together and working on my real light curve now that I am finished with my practice light curve? Or should I simply focus on mastering the wiki?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, you're doing a great job with the Wiki. Unfortunately the Perth Telescope is down for now. I just found out today that the RA motor went bad in the mount. I will post more news as I get it. We will probably have to start using New Mexico Skies telescope for our observations. This means being up at 2:00 AM EST ... any volunteers? For now, why don't you focus on working with the rest of the team ... bringing them up to spped on how to access and use the Wiki, as well as working through the Wiki to see what we should focus on in our AAS Poster.

1615 est

While trying to save over my images, when clicked, some files opened to a page showing the picture directly, where as others had a prompt coming up asking whether I wanted to find the image or save the image. Why?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, I'm not sure. WHy don't you show me this when you have a chance. Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

==12/3/07_2048 est==
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1349 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:13, 11 December 2007 (PST) Perth is still down and therefore we have decided to try and make the switch to New Mexico Skies to finish collecting data to get better light curves.

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-16T15:00:41Z

Danielle:

==[[Producing Light Curves]]==

== Telescope Time Reserved ==

FROM Tim Spuck

Sandy, I agree with you about the times for Perth and New Mexico Skies. I've reserved the following time in Perth. We can get time on New Mexico Skies as well from the folks at NOAO. Thanks, Mr. Spuck

October 22 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 23 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 24 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 25 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 26 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 27 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 28 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 29 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 30 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 31 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

November 1 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 2 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 3 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 4 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 5 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 6 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 7 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 8 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 9 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 10 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 11 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 12 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 13 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 14 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 15 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 16 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 17 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 18 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 19 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 20 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

== Failed attempt ==

-Nick-
First attempt to take an image using Perth Failed Due to Weather. 10/17/07
------------------------------------

''X-Dani-''

My targets are
: 409 RA- 76.854562 5hr7min25.1sec DEC- -6.238076 -6d14m17.1s R Mag17.3
: 412 RA- 76.869411 5hr7min28.7sec DEC- -6.223835 -6d16m36.9s R Mag16.4
: 414 RA- 76.872387 5hr7min29.4sec DEC- -6.276916 -6d16m36.9s R Mag17.3

== Perth Observing results 10/22/2007 ==

From Dani ... we tried observing T-Tauri targets using the telescope. Weather looked good at 3:32 PM EST, but telescope stated "Conditions were not sufficient for Observing". Nick K also tried earlier, but got the same results.

== Observing Results 10/23/2007 ==

FROM DANI.... Tried to image at 13:31 EST and this is what it gave me...
"Process Completed
There was a problem with the JPEG preview. See the console log for details. You can go to the logs area to look at or download the run log for this acquisition.
Current Status
RA Dec Az Alt
09:26:55 -60°00'03" 146° 27°

Run Journal/Log Output
The script failed. Reasons may include.......

1) Its daytime!!! (Perth is GMT + 8 hours)
2) The weather conditions are not sufficient for observing
3) The script was aborted by the user
4) The slew coordinates drifted below the horizon
5) The scope, camera or both are not connected
6) REQUEST ABORTED BY ACP

You can see the dome through our sky camera at .....
http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/information/po_sky_camera.html

TRY - AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN" .... this seems to happen alot. it happened to nick also when he tried to image just a few minutes before I did. is something wrong with the telescope? When I checked whether conditions it was clear and the windspeed was at 6.7, so the conditions should have been fine....... i tried again at 13:37 and it stated the same thing. pattern? okay, so it just toldme at 13:39 that the whether conditions were insuffecient or something along those lines... ''what exactly are the ideal conditions?'' [end of Dani post.]

== Perth failure ==

From Nick, today I attempted to image my targets at 13:15 est and again at 15:31est. Both times the imaging failed due to some internal problem with the Perth Telescope. I then tried at 16:20est.

From Matt H, I also attempted to image my targets at 16:00 est. At this time the imaging failed for some reason that has to do with Perth Telescope

FROMDANI... I also attempted to image and got the same results as Nick and Mattheath

== Perth ==

-Nick- Once again today Perth was unable to take images, while trying to firgure out the problem with the telescope we e-mailed Perth. They responded saying that there weather sensor had goon bad and they were having trouble with the new one.

== Failure ==

Once again today i attempted to image using perth and it is not working due to clouds and wind. Nick-11/08/08

== First Images 11/09/07 ==

Today at 1:38est I was able to get the first set of images from Perth. -Nick-

........DANIELLEYEAGER... 11/15/2007_23:57EST

What images exactly, did you collect? Only your targets or others as well?

NicK- I collect everyones field when i view, well as many as I have time to get and as long has Perth is corporateing.

== 11/19/2007 ==

Was able to image targets using Perth- Nick

== 11/20/2007 ==

I was able to image both of my targets again today using Perth- Nick

== 11/21/2007 ==

Today perth was unable to image my targets due to wind, and then later due to the fact the telescope was already in use. Nick

== 11/21/2007 ==

When I image for all the people in the project I get everyones images-Nick

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST) Nick, rather than saying "everyone", could you just list the fields and the filters used for each observing session. For Example, list it as:

Nick's field - R 180 sec, I 180 sec

Dani's field - R 180 sec, I 180 sec

Matt's field - R 180 sec, ... got cloudy and I did not get I

This way we know exactly what has been imaged.

== Perth11/27/07 ==

Once again the Telescope at perth is not imageing.
nick

== 11/28/07 ==

Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1308est as well as at 1630est Nick.

== 11/29/07 ==

Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1318est Nick.

== 12/2/07_2226 est ==

......DANIELLEYEAGER.....

dumbie me, i went to log on and do some imaging, but then i realised that it was like.. 10 in the morning. so keep in mind when imaging the +12 to +13 hour time difference.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T14:57:18Z

Danielle:

== TUTORIAL QUESTIONS ==
''X-Dani-''

1) is it giong to be interactive or informational?
a) are people going to be able to "plug in" the information and it's going to spit out a light curve?
b) is it just going to be a "follow along paper" telling them how to do it step by step?

== Targets for IC2118 ==

MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ?
283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s

SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S
200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s

ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ?
408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s

DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S
412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S
414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s

NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S
416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s

CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S
434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s

== practice light curve data ==

''....DANIELLEYEAGER.. 11/15/2007_23:55EST

Would you like our practice light curves posted on here? If so, do you want our entire spread sheets as well as the graph; or just one or the other?........''

RESPONSE: Dani, yes if you can post them here that would be great. Thanks, Mr. Spuck

== practice light curve .... ==

'''''........DANIELLEYEAGER.... 11/19/07 15:11EST'''''

today during 7th period mr.spuck pulled the IC2118 group aside and discussed how far we had gotten with the practice light curve and the wiki.

i am almost done with my light curve. i used the HOU [hands on universe] program to collect my data. fast and easy. However, there were only 4 constants in the images, two of which being my targets. once I create the spread sheets along with the graph, I will try to find a way to get them on here along with a step by step on how I did it.

'''''15:22EST'''''

mr.spuck saved a file into the practice folder showing 13 reference points, he also posted them on the wiki in section 17 of the discussion. i'm going to have to go back into my data and force HOU to spit out that information.

'''''[END]'''''

== participants ==

'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''

''mattheath''

''mattwalentosky''

''sandywieser''

''alexismcCool''

''daniyeager''

''calemcClintock''

''nickkelley''

where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.

Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.

== Location of image files for practice light curve .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''
All image files are locatde here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/ic2118/monitoring/

== X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''

Using MaxIm DL or Hands On Universe Image Processing Software

These are the image coordinates for the two YSO targets and 13 common reference objects in the practice light curve data set.

X Y

YSO 1: 176, 182 +/- 3 pixels

YSO 2: 179, 144 +/- 3 pixels

REF 1: 52, 436 +/- 3 pixels

REF 2: 94, 124 +/- 3 pixels

REF 3: 99, 222 +/- 3 pixels

REF 4: 129, 399 +/- 3 pixels

REF 5: 131, 309 +/- 3 pixels

REF 6: 156, 23 +/- 3 pixels

REF 7: 164, 286 +/- 3 pixels

REF 8: 201, 35 +/- 3 pixels

REF 9: 213, 295 +/- 3 pixels

REF 10: 220, 304 +/- 3 pixels

REF 11: 290, 36 +/- 3 pixels

REF 12: 379, 449 +/- 3 pixels

REF 13: 428, 359 +/- 3 pixels

== 11-27-17_1333EST ==

.............DANIELLEYEAGER.....

FIRST ATTEMPT AT POSTING PRACTICE LIGHT CURVE.

note... to load in picture, must upload file to wiki then recall.

data table

DATE------------------A------B-------C-------D----RATIO--RATIO C--RATIO D

03-13-0803-002...818..1510..5207..8083...1164......4.47.......6.94

03-13-0803-001...869..1429..5144..8316...1149......4.48.......7.76

03-09-0848-001...760..2853..8800..17440..1806.5....4.73.......9.65

03-09-0844-001...727..1024..3927..7418...884.5.....4.44.......8.39

03-09-0806-001...976..911...4144..7703...943.5.....4.39.......8.16

03-16-0803-001..1271..1179..5153..7797...1225......4.21.......6.36

03-15-0810-002..1046..1340..3302..8867...1193......2.77.......7.43

03-14-0800-003..1721..2731..10831..19584..2226......4.87......8.8

03-14-0800-002..1028..700...5026...8916...864.......5.82.....10.32

03-14-0800-001..1158..658...4760...8565...908.......5.24......9.43

03-13-0803-003...942..1634..5424...7877...1288......4.21......6.12

revised data table

DATE----------------RATIO C-----RATIO D

03-13-0803-002----- 4.47----- 6.94

03-13-0803-001----- 4.48----- 7.76

03-09-0848-001----- 4.73----- 9.65

03-09-0844-001----- 4.44----- 8.39

03-09-0806-001----- 4.39----- 8.16

03-16-0803-001----- 4.21----- 6.36

03-15-0810-002----- 2.77----- 7.43

03-14-0800-003----- 4.87----- 8.8

03-14-0800-002----- 5.82----- 10.32

03-14-0800-001----- 5.24----- 9.43

03-13-0803-003----- 4.21----- 6.12

[[Image:GRAPH.jpg]]

GRAPH IS IMAGE LOADED INTO PHOTOBUCKET.COM AND THEN SAVED TO THE WIKI AS GRAPH.JPG.... THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION I COULD COME UP WITH AS TO POSTING A PICTURE OF THE GRAPH. ANY IDEAS OR OTHER OPTIONS??

.......11/30/07 1017est......... okay, so I made a really REALLY beginner mistake and completly forgot about the fact that I had to use julian date. SOOO.. I will post a new thread with the updated information.

.....11/30/07 1042EST.............. i guess it's just a day for mistakes. i was using the file image name rather than the date and time from the header. so, i have to do the dates over again AND THEN convert into julian time.
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 10:45, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, when you write ratio C and ratio D, what do you mean? You are dividing what by what? Also, did you follow the directions from the activity we are working showing you how to generate a light curve. In the activity one of the things you are asked to do is convert to Julian time.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:49, 4 December 2007 (PST) TSpuck, Ratio C means the Candidate C divided by the average of the references. Ratio D means the Candidate D divided by the average of the references. And no, I did not use the activity worksheet. [end]

== Practice Light Curve and Loop Problem ==

..............DANIELLEYEAGER 11/30/07 1336EST

After figuring the Julian Date for the data, the light curve started to loop. By loop, I mean that the dates stacked fairly close to right above one another and circled through them forming a loop. By this loop problem, I've made the assumption that if a set of data has several points that are seconds or minutes apart, the data will loop. To solve the loop problem I averaged together the points that formed the loop and had that as my point. Doing so decreased my data points severely, but did work in achieving my desired goal.

NOTE .... when uploading pictures make sure to use EXACT title. example.. if the file name is uploaded as graph2.JPG you must type exactly, example capatalizing the JPG.

NEW DATA TABLE AND GRAPH

JULIAN DATE..... RATIO C..... RATIO D

2454168.838........ 4.52............ 8.73

2454172.835........ 4.386...........6.94

2454173.833........ 5.31............ 9.52

2454174.84.......... 2.77............ 7.43

2454175.835........ 4.21............ 6.36

[[Image:graph2.JPG]]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:03, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, Can you double check the last two data points on your graph (2454174.84 and 2454175.835)? The curves seem to match up except for one of these two sets.

Also, does anyone know how to set up a graph in excel so that you only connect some of the data points being graphed? Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLYEAGER POST]

== Matt's Light Curve using Beth Thomas's Method==

[[Image:Matt.JPG]]
HJD YSO 1 in R YSO 1 in I

2454168.838______7703________17560

2454172.833______7418________17440

2454174.844______8038________19293

2454175.835______7869________19316

2454177 856______8565________18534

2454178 8820_____8820________19204

2454179 8820_____8820________18871

2454180 8820_____8258________18534

2454181 8258_____7820________18310

2454182 7820_____7708________18729

== 12/02/07_1604 est ==

....DANIELLEYEAGER......

Tried to get on perth and take some images. Telescope was in use by perth. I did go into the images we have already taken and saved some of the images titled Daniscandidates to my personal computer. I don't really know what to do with them though. How many pictures do we have that are focused on my center? Should I start getting the data pulled together and working on my real light curve now that I am finished with my practice light curve? Or should I simply focus on mastering the wiki?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, you're doing a great job with the Wiki. Unfortunately the Perth Telescope is down for now. I just found out today that the RA motor went bad in the mount. I will post more news as I get it. We will probably have to start using New Mexico Skies telescope for our observations. This means being up at 2:00 AM EST ... any volunteers? For now, why don't you focus on working with the rest of the team ... bringing them up to spped on how to access and use the Wiki, as well as working through the Wiki to see what we should focus on in our AAS Poster.

1615 est

While trying to save over my images, when clicked, some files opened to a page showing the picture directly, where as others had a prompt coming up asking whether I wanted to find the image or save the image. Why?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, I'm not sure. WHy don't you show me this when you have a chance. Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== Practice curve ==

Nick's light curve, 12/04/07 1:34

Julian Date Ratio 1 Ratio 2
2454172.835 4.4 7
2454173.833 5.3 9.5
2454174.843 3.6 7.2
2454175.835 4.2 6.4

[[Image:Graph3.JPG]]

Once again Perth is down.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:39, 4 December 2007 (PST) Nick, Perth will probably be down for a bit. See my previous post to Dani. Also, your light curve looks similar to Dani's. That's good and bad. :) Can you check with Dani and answer the following question for me and then post your responses:

1. Did the two of you use all the same reference stars?

2. Did the two of you use the same software to get the brightness values for your reference stars and YSO candidates?

Also, I'd like to se you modify your graph a bit. Label the Y axis more clearly (don't just say ratio ... ratio of what?). Also, turn the julian dates (ie. like I had Dani do hers). And use the scatter plot with the line connecting the data points. Also correct your spelling error in the graph title. Thanks.

--[[User:Nicholas|Nicholas]] 10:36, 6 December 2007 (PST) Well Mr. Spuck Dani walked me through what to do with the Light Curve so it would be understandable why our light curves would be similar. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:59, 7 December 2007 (PST) 1.) I don't know if we used the same reference stars, but I do know that he used MORE reference stars than I did.

2.) I used HOU.

==12/3/07_2048 est==
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1349 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

== Light Curve Correction ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:44, 7 December 2007 (PST) In study of both Nick's and my own light curve, we have discovered why the peaks are not matching up. The graphs show two different candidates rather than two different filters for the same candidate. Both light curves need redone, focusing on one candidate in both the I and the R filters. Each graph needs to show the I and R light curve for one candidate. [end]

== Nick's Project ==

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:17, 11 December 2007 (PST)This area will be used to show the current progress I am making toward proving that Candidates 415 and 416 are T-Tauri Stars.

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:47, 7 December 2007 (PST) These are my light curves for the 2 candidates that I am monitoring for Spitzer and the Sceince fair. I am currently monitoring to get more accurate curves to take with me.

Candidate
415 Julian Date I Ratio R Ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 1.20
21-Feb 2454153.051 1.32 0.6
22-Feb 2454154.144 1.6 0.63
23-Feb 2454155.121 1.76 0.84
27-Feb 2454158.9 1.27 0.53
6-Mar 2454166.035 1.33 0.56
9-Mar 2454169.047 1.66 0.73
11-Mar 2454171.074 1.49 0.68
12-Mar 2454172.013 1.5 0.65
16-Mar 2454176.01 0.96 0.45

[[Image:415.JPG]]

Candidate
416 Julian Date I ratio R ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 3
21-Feb 2454153.051 3.04 1.3
22-Feb 2454154.144 3.06 1.19
23-Feb 2454155.121 2.86 1.31
27-Feb 2454158.9 3.24 1.4
6-Mar 2454166.035 3.26 1.52
9-Mar 2454169.047 3.07 1.31
11-Mar 2454171.074 3.07 1.33
12-Mar 2454172.013 3.36 1.44
16-Mar 2454176.01 3.2 1.38

[[Image:416.JPG]]

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:13, 11 December 2007 (PST) Perth is still down and therefore we have decided to try and make the switch to New Mexico Skies to finish collecting data to get better light curves.

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T14:55:40Z

Danielle:

== TUTORIAL QUESTIONS ==
''X-Dani-''

1) is it giong to be interactive or informational?
a) are people going to be able to "plug in" the information and it's going to spit out a light curve?
b) is it just going to be a "follow along paper" telling them how to do it step by step?

== Targets for IC2118 ==

MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ?
283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s

SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S
200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s

ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ?
408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s

DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S
412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S
414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s

NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S
416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s

CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S
434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s

== practice light curve data ==

''....DANIELLEYEAGER.. 11/15/2007_23:55EST

Would you like our practice light curves posted on here? If so, do you want our entire spread sheets as well as the graph; or just one or the other?........''

RESPONSE: Dani, yes if you can post them here that would be great. Thanks, Mr. Spuck

== practice light curve .... ==

'''''........DANIELLEYEAGER.... 11/19/07 15:11EST'''''

today during 7th period mr.spuck pulled the IC2118 group aside and discussed how far we had gotten with the practice light curve and the wiki.

i am almost done with my light curve. i used the HOU [hands on universe] program to collect my data. fast and easy. However, there were only 4 constants in the images, two of which being my targets. once I create the spread sheets along with the graph, I will try to find a way to get them on here along with a step by step on how I did it.

'''''15:22EST'''''

mr.spuck saved a file into the practice folder showing 13 reference points, he also posted them on the wiki in section 17 of the discussion. i'm going to have to go back into my data and force HOU to spit out that information.

'''''[END]'''''

== participants ==

'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''

''mattheath''

''mattwalentosky''

''sandywieser''

''alexismcCool''

''daniyeager''

''calemcClintock''

''nickkelley''

where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.

Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.

== Location of image files for practice light curve .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''
All image files are locatde here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/ic2118/monitoring/

== X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''

Using MaxIm DL or Hands On Universe Image Processing Software

These are the image coordinates for the two YSO targets and 13 common reference objects in the practice light curve data set.

X Y

YSO 1: 176, 182 +/- 3 pixels

YSO 2: 179, 144 +/- 3 pixels

REF 1: 52, 436 +/- 3 pixels

REF 2: 94, 124 +/- 3 pixels

REF 3: 99, 222 +/- 3 pixels

REF 4: 129, 399 +/- 3 pixels

REF 5: 131, 309 +/- 3 pixels

REF 6: 156, 23 +/- 3 pixels

REF 7: 164, 286 +/- 3 pixels

REF 8: 201, 35 +/- 3 pixels

REF 9: 213, 295 +/- 3 pixels

REF 10: 220, 304 +/- 3 pixels

REF 11: 290, 36 +/- 3 pixels

REF 12: 379, 449 +/- 3 pixels

REF 13: 428, 359 +/- 3 pixels

== 11-27-17_1333EST ==

.............DANIELLEYEAGER.....

FIRST ATTEMPT AT POSTING PRACTICE LIGHT CURVE.

note... to load in picture, must upload file to wiki then recall.

data table

DATE------------------A------B-------C-------D----RATIO--RATIO C--RATIO D

03-13-0803-002...818..1510..5207..8083...1164......4.47.......6.94

03-13-0803-001...869..1429..5144..8316...1149......4.48.......7.76

03-09-0848-001...760..2853..8800..17440..1806.5....4.73.......9.65

03-09-0844-001...727..1024..3927..7418...884.5.....4.44.......8.39

03-09-0806-001...976..911...4144..7703...943.5.....4.39.......8.16

03-16-0803-001..1271..1179..5153..7797...1225......4.21.......6.36

03-15-0810-002..1046..1340..3302..8867...1193......2.77.......7.43

03-14-0800-003..1721..2731..10831..19584..2226......4.87......8.8

03-14-0800-002..1028..700...5026...8916...864.......5.82.....10.32

03-14-0800-001..1158..658...4760...8565...908.......5.24......9.43

03-13-0803-003...942..1634..5424...7877...1288......4.21......6.12

revised data table

DATE----------------RATIO C-----RATIO D

03-13-0803-002----- 4.47----- 6.94

03-13-0803-001----- 4.48----- 7.76

03-09-0848-001----- 4.73----- 9.65

03-09-0844-001----- 4.44----- 8.39

03-09-0806-001----- 4.39----- 8.16

03-16-0803-001----- 4.21----- 6.36

03-15-0810-002----- 2.77----- 7.43

03-14-0800-003----- 4.87----- 8.8

03-14-0800-002----- 5.82----- 10.32

03-14-0800-001----- 5.24----- 9.43

03-13-0803-003----- 4.21----- 6.12

[[Image:GRAPH.jpg]]

GRAPH IS IMAGE LOADED INTO PHOTOBUCKET.COM AND THEN SAVED TO THE WIKI AS GRAPH.JPG.... THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION I COULD COME UP WITH AS TO POSTING A PICTURE OF THE GRAPH. ANY IDEAS OR OTHER OPTIONS??

.......11/30/07 1017est......... okay, so I made a really REALLY beginner mistake and completly forgot about the fact that I had to use julian date. SOOO.. I will post a new thread with the updated information.

.....11/30/07 1042EST.............. i guess it's just a day for mistakes. i was using the file image name rather than the date and time from the header. so, i have to do the dates over again AND THEN convert into julian time.
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 10:45, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, when you write ratio C and ratio D, what do you mean? You are dividing what by what? Also, did you follow the directions from the activity we are working showing you how to generate a light curve. In the activity one of the things you are asked to do is convert to Julian time.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:49, 4 December 2007 (PST) TSpuck, Ratio C means the Candidate C divided by the average of the references. Ratio D means the Candidate D divided by the average of the references. And no, I did not use the activity worksheet. [end]

== Practice Light Curve and Loop Problem ==

..............DANIELLEYEAGER 11/30/07 1336EST

After figuring the Julian Date for the data, the light curve started to loop. By loop, I mean that the dates stacked fairly close to right above one another and circled through them forming a loop. By this loop problem, I've made the assumption that if a set of data has several points that are seconds or minutes apart, the data will loop. To solve the loop problem I averaged together the points that formed the loop and had that as my point. Doing so decreased my data points severely, but did work in achieving my desired goal.

NOTE .... when uploading pictures make sure to use EXACT title. example.. if the file name is uploaded as graph2.JPG you must type exactly, example capatalizing the JPG.

NEW DATA TABLE AND GRAPH

JULIAN DATE..... RATIO C..... RATIO D

2454168.838........ 4.52............ 8.73

2454172.835........ 4.386...........6.94

2454173.833........ 5.31............ 9.52

2454174.84.......... 2.77............ 7.43

2454175.835........ 4.21............ 6.36

[[Image:graph2.JPG]]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:03, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, Can you double check the last two data points on your graph (2454174.84 and 2454175.835)? The curves seem to match up except for one of these two sets.

Also, does anyone know how to set up a graph in excel so that you only connect some of the data points being graphed? Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLYEAGER POST]

== Matt's Light Curve using Beth Thomas's Method==

[[Image:Matt.JPG]]
HJD YSO 1 in R YSO 1 in I

2454168.838______7703________17560

2454172.833______7418________17440

2454174.844______8038________19293

2454175.835______7869________19316

2454177 856______8565________18534

2454178 8820_____8820________19204

2454179 8820_____8820________18871

2454180 8820_____8258________18534

2454181 8258_____7820________18310

2454182 7820_____7708________18729

== 12/02/07_1604 est ==

....DANIELLEYEAGER......

Tried to get on perth and take some images. Telescope was in use by perth. I did go into the images we have already taken and saved some of the images titled Daniscandidates to my personal computer. I don't really know what to do with them though. How many pictures do we have that are focused on my center? Should I start getting the data pulled together and working on my real light curve now that I am finished with my practice light curve? Or should I simply focus on mastering the wiki?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, you're doing a great job with the Wiki. Unfortunately the Perth Telescope is down for now. I just found out today that the RA motor went bad in the mount. I will post more news as I get it. We will probably have to start using New Mexico Skies telescope for our observations. This means being up at 2:00 AM EST ... any volunteers? For now, why don't you focus on working with the rest of the team ... bringing them up to spped on how to access and use the Wiki, as well as working through the Wiki to see what we should focus on in our AAS Poster.

1615 est

While trying to save over my images, when clicked, some files opened to a page showing the picture directly, where as others had a prompt coming up asking whether I wanted to find the image or save the image. Why?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, I'm not sure. WHy don't you show me this when you have a chance. Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/2/07_2226 est ==

......DANIELLEYEAGER.....

dumbie me, i went to log on and do some imaging, but then i realised that it was like.. 10 in the morning. so keep in mind when imaging the +12 to +13 hour time difference.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== Practice curve ==

Nick's light curve, 12/04/07 1:34

Julian Date Ratio 1 Ratio 2
2454172.835 4.4 7
2454173.833 5.3 9.5
2454174.843 3.6 7.2
2454175.835 4.2 6.4

[[Image:Graph3.JPG]]

Once again Perth is down.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:39, 4 December 2007 (PST) Nick, Perth will probably be down for a bit. See my previous post to Dani. Also, your light curve looks similar to Dani's. That's good and bad. :) Can you check with Dani and answer the following question for me and then post your responses:

1. Did the two of you use all the same reference stars?

2. Did the two of you use the same software to get the brightness values for your reference stars and YSO candidates?

Also, I'd like to se you modify your graph a bit. Label the Y axis more clearly (don't just say ratio ... ratio of what?). Also, turn the julian dates (ie. like I had Dani do hers). And use the scatter plot with the line connecting the data points. Also correct your spelling error in the graph title. Thanks.

--[[User:Nicholas|Nicholas]] 10:36, 6 December 2007 (PST) Well Mr. Spuck Dani walked me through what to do with the Light Curve so it would be understandable why our light curves would be similar. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:59, 7 December 2007 (PST) 1.) I don't know if we used the same reference stars, but I do know that he used MORE reference stars than I did.

2.) I used HOU.

==12/3/07_2048 est==
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1349 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

== Light Curve Correction ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:44, 7 December 2007 (PST) In study of both Nick's and my own light curve, we have discovered why the peaks are not matching up. The graphs show two different candidates rather than two different filters for the same candidate. Both light curves need redone, focusing on one candidate in both the I and the R filters. Each graph needs to show the I and R light curve for one candidate. [end]

== Nick's Project ==

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:17, 11 December 2007 (PST)This area will be used to show the current progress I am making toward proving that Candidates 415 and 416 are T-Tauri Stars.

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:47, 7 December 2007 (PST) These are my light curves for the 2 candidates that I am monitoring for Spitzer and the Sceince fair. I am currently monitoring to get more accurate curves to take with me.

Candidate
415 Julian Date I Ratio R Ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 1.20
21-Feb 2454153.051 1.32 0.6
22-Feb 2454154.144 1.6 0.63
23-Feb 2454155.121 1.76 0.84
27-Feb 2454158.9 1.27 0.53
6-Mar 2454166.035 1.33 0.56
9-Mar 2454169.047 1.66 0.73
11-Mar 2454171.074 1.49 0.68
12-Mar 2454172.013 1.5 0.65
16-Mar 2454176.01 0.96 0.45

[[Image:415.JPG]]

Candidate
416 Julian Date I ratio R ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 3
21-Feb 2454153.051 3.04 1.3
22-Feb 2454154.144 3.06 1.19
23-Feb 2454155.121 2.86 1.31
27-Feb 2454158.9 3.24 1.4
6-Mar 2454166.035 3.26 1.52
9-Mar 2454169.047 3.07 1.31
11-Mar 2454171.074 3.07 1.33
12-Mar 2454172.013 3.36 1.44
16-Mar 2454176.01 3.2 1.38

[[Image:416.JPG]]

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:13, 11 December 2007 (PST) Perth is still down and therefore we have decided to try and make the switch to New Mexico Skies to finish collecting data to get better light curves.

Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Remote Observatories

2007-12-16T14:51:12Z

Danielle:

Talk:IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T14:39:10Z

Danielle:

== Telescope Time Reserved ==

FROM Tim Spuck

Sandy, I agree with you about the times for Perth and New Mexico Skies. I've reserved the following time in Perth. We can get time on New Mexico Skies as well from the folks at NOAO. Thanks, Mr. Spuck

October 22 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 23 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 24 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 25 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 26 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 27 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 28 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 29 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 30 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

October 31 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT

November 1 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 2 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 3 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 4 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 5 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 6 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 7 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 8 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 9 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 10 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 11 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 12 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 13 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 14 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT

November 15 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 16 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 17 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 18 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 19 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

November 20 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT

== Failed attempt ==

-Nick-
First attempt to take an image using Perth Failed Due to Weather. 10/17/07
------------------------------------

''X-Dani-''

My targets are
: 409 RA- 76.854562 5hr7min25.1sec DEC- -6.238076 -6d14m17.1s R Mag17.3
: 412 RA- 76.869411 5hr7min28.7sec DEC- -6.223835 -6d16m36.9s R Mag16.4
: 414 RA- 76.872387 5hr7min29.4sec DEC- -6.276916 -6d16m36.9s R Mag17.3

== TUTORIAL QUESTIONS ==
''X-Dani-''

1) is it giong to be interactive or informational?
a) are people going to be able to "plug in" the information and it's going to spit out a light curve?
b) is it just going to be a "follow along paper" telling them how to do it step by step?

== Perth Observing results 10/22/2007 ==

From Dani ... we tried observing T-Tauri targets using the telescope. Weather looked good at 3:32 PM EST, but telescope stated "Conditions were not sufficient for Observing". Nick K also tried earlier, but got the same results.

== Observing Results 10/23/2007 ==

FROM DANI.... Tried to image at 13:31 EST and this is what it gave me...
"Process Completed
There was a problem with the JPEG preview. See the console log for details. You can go to the logs area to look at or download the run log for this acquisition.
Current Status
RA Dec Az Alt
09:26:55 -60°00'03" 146° 27°

Run Journal/Log Output
The script failed. Reasons may include.......

1) Its daytime!!! (Perth is GMT + 8 hours)
2) The weather conditions are not sufficient for observing
3) The script was aborted by the user
4) The slew coordinates drifted below the horizon
5) The scope, camera or both are not connected
6) REQUEST ABORTED BY ACP

You can see the dome through our sky camera at .....
http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/information/po_sky_camera.html

TRY - AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN" .... this seems to happen alot. it happened to nick also when he tried to image just a few minutes before I did. is something wrong with the telescope? When I checked whether conditions it was clear and the windspeed was at 6.7, so the conditions should have been fine....... i tried again at 13:37 and it stated the same thing. pattern? okay, so it just toldme at 13:39 that the whether conditions were insuffecient or something along those lines... ''what exactly are the ideal conditions?'' [end of Dani post.]

== Perth failure ==

From Nick, today I attempted to image my targets at 13:15 est and again at 15:31est. Both times the imaging failed due to some internal problem with the Perth Telescope. I then tried at 16:20est.

From Matt H, I also attempted to image my targets at 16:00 est. At this time the imaging failed for some reason that has to do with Perth Telescope

FROMDANI... I also attempted to image and got the same results as Nick and Mattheath

== Targets for IC2118 ==

MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ?
283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s

SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S
200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s

ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ?
408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s

DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S
412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S
414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s

NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S
416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s

CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S
434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S

CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s

== Perth ==

-Nick- Once again today Perth was unable to take images, while trying to firgure out the problem with the telescope we e-mailed Perth. They responded saying that there weather sensor had goon bad and they were having trouble with the new one.

== Failure ==

Once again today i attempted to image using perth and it is not working due to clouds and wind. Nick-11/08/08

== First Images 11/09/07 ==

Today at 1:38est I was able to get the first set of images from Perth. -Nick-

........DANIELLEYEAGER... 11/15/2007_23:57EST

What images exactly, did you collect? Only your targets or others as well?

NicK- I collect everyones field when i view, well as many as I have time to get and as long has Perth is corporateing.

== practice light curve data ==

''....DANIELLEYEAGER.. 11/15/2007_23:55EST

Would you like our practice light curves posted on here? If so, do you want our entire spread sheets as well as the graph; or just one or the other?........''

RESPONSE: Dani, yes if you can post them here that would be great. Thanks, Mr. Spuck

== practice light curve .... ==

'''''........DANIELLEYEAGER.... 11/19/07 15:11EST'''''

today during 7th period mr.spuck pulled the IC2118 group aside and discussed how far we had gotten with the practice light curve and the wiki.

i am almost done with my light curve. i used the HOU [hands on universe] program to collect my data. fast and easy. However, there were only 4 constants in the images, two of which being my targets. once I create the spread sheets along with the graph, I will try to find a way to get them on here along with a step by step on how I did it.

'''''15:22EST'''''

mr.spuck saved a file into the practice folder showing 13 reference points, he also posted them on the wiki in section 17 of the discussion. i'm going to have to go back into my data and force HOU to spit out that information.

'''''[END]'''''

== participants ==

'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''

''mattheath''

''mattwalentosky''

''sandywieser''

''alexismcCool''

''daniyeager''

''calemcClintock''

''nickkelley''

where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.

Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.

== Location of image files for practice light curve .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''
All image files are locatde here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/ic2118/monitoring/

== X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images .... ==

'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''

Using MaxIm DL or Hands On Universe Image Processing Software

These are the image coordinates for the two YSO targets and 13 common reference objects in the practice light curve data set.

X Y

YSO 1: 176, 182 +/- 3 pixels

YSO 2: 179, 144 +/- 3 pixels

REF 1: 52, 436 +/- 3 pixels

REF 2: 94, 124 +/- 3 pixels

REF 3: 99, 222 +/- 3 pixels

REF 4: 129, 399 +/- 3 pixels

REF 5: 131, 309 +/- 3 pixels

REF 6: 156, 23 +/- 3 pixels

REF 7: 164, 286 +/- 3 pixels

REF 8: 201, 35 +/- 3 pixels

REF 9: 213, 295 +/- 3 pixels

REF 10: 220, 304 +/- 3 pixels

REF 11: 290, 36 +/- 3 pixels

REF 12: 379, 449 +/- 3 pixels

REF 13: 428, 359 +/- 3 pixels

== 11/19/2007 ==

Was able to image targets using Perth- Nick

== 11/20/2007 ==

I was able to image both of my targets again today using Perth- Nick

== 11/21/2007 ==

Today perth was unable to image my targets due to wind, and then later due to the fact the telescope was already in use. Nick

== 11/21/2007 ==

When I image for all the people in the project I get everyones images-Nick

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 10:53, 4 December 2007 (PST) Nick, rather than saying "everyone", could you just list the fields and the filters used for each observing session. For Example, list it as:

Nick's field - R 180 sec, I 180 sec

Dani's field - R 180 sec, I 180 sec

Matt's field - R 180 sec, ... got cloudy and I did not get I

This way we know exactly what has been imaged.

== 11-27-17_1333EST ==

.............DANIELLEYEAGER.....

FIRST ATTEMPT AT POSTING PRACTICE LIGHT CURVE.

note... to load in picture, must upload file to wiki then recall.

data table

DATE------------------A------B-------C-------D----RATIO--RATIO C--RATIO D

03-13-0803-002...818..1510..5207..8083...1164......4.47.......6.94

03-13-0803-001...869..1429..5144..8316...1149......4.48.......7.76

03-09-0848-001...760..2853..8800..17440..1806.5....4.73.......9.65

03-09-0844-001...727..1024..3927..7418...884.5.....4.44.......8.39

03-09-0806-001...976..911...4144..7703...943.5.....4.39.......8.16

03-16-0803-001..1271..1179..5153..7797...1225......4.21.......6.36

03-15-0810-002..1046..1340..3302..8867...1193......2.77.......7.43

03-14-0800-003..1721..2731..10831..19584..2226......4.87......8.8

03-14-0800-002..1028..700...5026...8916...864.......5.82.....10.32

03-14-0800-001..1158..658...4760...8565...908.......5.24......9.43

03-13-0803-003...942..1634..5424...7877...1288......4.21......6.12

revised data table

DATE----------------RATIO C-----RATIO D

03-13-0803-002----- 4.47----- 6.94

03-13-0803-001----- 4.48----- 7.76

03-09-0848-001----- 4.73----- 9.65

03-09-0844-001----- 4.44----- 8.39

03-09-0806-001----- 4.39----- 8.16

03-16-0803-001----- 4.21----- 6.36

03-15-0810-002----- 2.77----- 7.43

03-14-0800-003----- 4.87----- 8.8

03-14-0800-002----- 5.82----- 10.32

03-14-0800-001----- 5.24----- 9.43

03-13-0803-003----- 4.21----- 6.12

[[Image:GRAPH.jpg]]

GRAPH IS IMAGE LOADED INTO PHOTOBUCKET.COM AND THEN SAVED TO THE WIKI AS GRAPH.JPG.... THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION I COULD COME UP WITH AS TO POSTING A PICTURE OF THE GRAPH. ANY IDEAS OR OTHER OPTIONS??

.......11/30/07 1017est......... okay, so I made a really REALLY beginner mistake and completly forgot about the fact that I had to use julian date. SOOO.. I will post a new thread with the updated information.

.....11/30/07 1042EST.............. i guess it's just a day for mistakes. i was using the file image name rather than the date and time from the header. so, i have to do the dates over again AND THEN convert into julian time.
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 10:45, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, when you write ratio C and ratio D, what do you mean? You are dividing what by what? Also, did you follow the directions from the activity we are working showing you how to generate a light curve. In the activity one of the things you are asked to do is convert to Julian time.

--[[User:Danielle|Dani]] 10:49, 4 December 2007 (PST) TSpuck, Ratio C means the Candidate C divided by the average of the references. Ratio D means the Candidate D divided by the average of the references. And no, I did not use the activity worksheet. [end]

== Perth11/27/07 ==

Once again the Telescope at perth is not imageing.
nick

== 11/28/07 ==

Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1308est as well as at 1630est Nick.

== 11/29/07 ==

Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1318est Nick.

== Practice Light Curve and Loop Problem ==

..............DANIELLEYEAGER 11/30/07 1336EST

After figuring the Julian Date for the data, the light curve started to loop. By loop, I mean that the dates stacked fairly close to right above one another and circled through them forming a loop. By this loop problem, I've made the assumption that if a set of data has several points that are seconds or minutes apart, the data will loop. To solve the loop problem I averaged together the points that formed the loop and had that as my point. Doing so decreased my data points severely, but did work in achieving my desired goal.

NOTE .... when uploading pictures make sure to use EXACT title. example.. if the file name is uploaded as graph2.JPG you must type exactly, example capatalizing the JPG.

NEW DATA TABLE AND GRAPH

JULIAN DATE..... RATIO C..... RATIO D

2454168.838........ 4.52............ 8.73

2454172.835........ 4.386...........6.94

2454173.833........ 5.31............ 9.52

2454174.84.......... 2.77............ 7.43

2454175.835........ 4.21............ 6.36

[[Image:graph2.JPG]]

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:03, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, Can you double check the last two data points on your graph (2454174.84 and 2454175.835)? The curves seem to match up except for one of these two sets.

Also, does anyone know how to set up a graph in excel so that you only connect some of the data points being graphed? Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLYEAGER POST]

== Matt's Light Curve using Beth Thomas's Method==

[[Image:Matt.JPG]]
HJD YSO 1 in R YSO 1 in I

2454168.838______7703________17560

2454172.833______7418________17440

2454174.844______8038________19293

2454175.835______7869________19316

2454177 856______8565________18534

2454178 8820_____8820________19204

2454179 8820_____8820________18871

2454180 8820_____8258________18534

2454181 8258_____7820________18310

2454182 7820_____7708________18729

== 12/02/07_1604 est ==

....DANIELLEYEAGER......

Tried to get on perth and take some images. Telescope was in use by perth. I did go into the images we have already taken and saved some of the images titled Daniscandidates to my personal computer. I don't really know what to do with them though. How many pictures do we have that are focused on my center? Should I start getting the data pulled together and working on my real light curve now that I am finished with my practice light curve? Or should I simply focus on mastering the wiki?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, you're doing a great job with the Wiki. Unfortunately the Perth Telescope is down for now. I just found out today that the RA motor went bad in the mount. I will post more news as I get it. We will probably have to start using New Mexico Skies telescope for our observations. This means being up at 2:00 AM EST ... any volunteers? For now, why don't you focus on working with the rest of the team ... bringing them up to spped on how to access and use the Wiki, as well as working through the Wiki to see what we should focus on in our AAS Poster.

1615 est

While trying to save over my images, when clicked, some files opened to a page showing the picture directly, where as others had a prompt coming up asking whether I wanted to find the image or save the image. Why?

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:18, 4 December 2007 (PST) Dani, I'm not sure. WHy don't you show me this when you have a chance. Thanks.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/2/07_2226 est ==

......DANIELLEYEAGER.....

dumbie me, i went to log on and do some imaging, but then i realised that it was like.. 10 in the morning. so keep in mind when imaging the +12 to +13 hour time difference.

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== Practice curve ==

Nick's light curve, 12/04/07 1:34

Julian Date Ratio 1 Ratio 2
2454172.835 4.4 7
2454173.833 5.3 9.5
2454174.843 3.6 7.2
2454175.835 4.2 6.4

[[Image:Graph3.JPG]]

Once again Perth is down.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:39, 4 December 2007 (PST) Nick, Perth will probably be down for a bit. See my previous post to Dani. Also, your light curve looks similar to Dani's. That's good and bad. :) Can you check with Dani and answer the following question for me and then post your responses:

1. Did the two of you use all the same reference stars?

2. Did the two of you use the same software to get the brightness values for your reference stars and YSO candidates?

Also, I'd like to se you modify your graph a bit. Label the Y axis more clearly (don't just say ratio ... ratio of what?). Also, turn the julian dates (ie. like I had Dani do hers). And use the scatter plot with the line connecting the data points. Also correct your spelling error in the graph title. Thanks.

--[[User:Nicholas|Nicholas]] 10:36, 6 December 2007 (PST) Well Mr. Spuck Dani walked me through what to do with the Light Curve so it would be understandable why our light curves would be similar. [end]

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 09:59, 7 December 2007 (PST) 1.) I don't know if we used the same reference stars, but I do know that he used MORE reference stars than I did.

2.) I used HOU.

==12/3/07_2048 est==
....JENNIFERBUTCHART....2048EST

Today, stayed after with Alexis, Danielle, Cale, and Alix in Mr. Spuck's room. Took notes on basics of things for the Austin trip. Parents signed the permission slip and are pleased with the trip. Mom's meeting with Mr. Spuck went well, obviously.

2:40-5:10, worked on galaxy research.

Tomorrow, doing notes on the book Mr. Spuck gave me.

I officially have my hours as of today. :)

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:29, 4 December 2007 (PST) Jennifer, I'll need to see the log of your hours sometime before friday. Also, why don't you type up the notes from our discussion and get them posted on to the galaxy classification board. You can make the graphics in paint, or draw and scan them in, or use a digital camera to take pics of your notes and upload the graphics. Either way is fine with me.

[END JENNIFERBUTCHART POST.]

.. DANIELLEYEAGER 12/04/07 ..

Jennifer, again, good job on posting, but please post in the Galaxy section, if you need a refresher on how to get to it, from the main page go to Future Research Projects and then from there Galaxy then discussion. I beleive that is the route.

--[[User:Spuck|Spuck]] 11:25, 4 December 2007 (PST) FYI ... here is the link again to the Go to the discussion page off of the [https://coolwiki.ipac.caltech.edu/index.php/Galaxy_Classification Galaxy Clasification Page].

[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]

== 12/04/07 1349 est ==

'''''UPDATE IN HOW TO POST PLEASE READ'''''

== Light Curve Correction ==

--[[User:Danielle|DanielleYeager]] 10:44, 7 December 2007 (PST) In study of both Nick's and my own light curve, we have discovered why the peaks are not matching up. The graphs show two different candidates rather than two different filters for the same candidate. Both light curves need redone, focusing on one candidate in both the I and the R filters. Each graph needs to show the I and R light curve for one candidate. [end]

== Nick's Project ==

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:17, 11 December 2007 (PST)This area will be used to show the current progress I am making toward proving that Candidates 415 and 416 are T-Tauri Stars.

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:47, 7 December 2007 (PST) These are my light curves for the 2 candidates that I am monitoring for Spitzer and the Sceince fair. I am currently monitoring to get more accurate curves to take with me.

Candidate
415 Julian Date I Ratio R Ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 1.20
21-Feb 2454153.051 1.32 0.6
22-Feb 2454154.144 1.6 0.63
23-Feb 2454155.121 1.76 0.84
27-Feb 2454158.9 1.27 0.53
6-Mar 2454166.035 1.33 0.56
9-Mar 2454169.047 1.66 0.73
11-Mar 2454171.074 1.49 0.68
12-Mar 2454172.013 1.5 0.65
16-Mar 2454176.01 0.96 0.45

[[Image:415.JPG]]

Candidate
416 Julian Date I ratio R ratio
12-Feb 2454144.168 3
21-Feb 2454153.051 3.04 1.3
22-Feb 2454154.144 3.06 1.19
23-Feb 2454155.121 2.86 1.31
27-Feb 2454158.9 3.24 1.4
6-Mar 2454166.035 3.26 1.52
9-Mar 2454169.047 3.07 1.31
11-Mar 2454171.074 3.07 1.33
12-Mar 2454172.013 3.36 1.44
16-Mar 2454176.01 3.2 1.38

[[Image:416.JPG]]

--[[User:Nicholas|NicholasJamesKelley]] 10:13, 11 December 2007 (PST) Perth is still down and therefore we have decided to try and make the switch to New Mexico Skies to finish collecting data to get better light curves.

IC 2118 Current Research Activities

2007-12-16T14:30:44Z

Danielle: /* Monitoring T-Tauri Stars using the Perth Obervatory Telescope */

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