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Revision as of 15:44, 30 November 2007
Contents
- 1 Meeting from 10/9/2007 at Oil City High School
- 2 Meeting 10/17/07 At OCHS
- 3 Telescope Time Reserved
- 4 Failed attempt
- 5 TUTORIAL QUESTIONS
- 6 Perth Observing results 10/22/2007
- 7 Observing Results 10/23/2007
- 8 Perth failure
- 9 Targets for IC2118
- 10 Perth
- 11 Failure
- 12 First Images 11/09/07
- 13 practice light curve data
- 14 practice light curve ....
- 15 participants
- 16 Location of image files for practice light curve ....
- 17 X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images ....
- 18 11/19/2007
- 19 11/20/2007
- 20 11/21/2007
- 21 11/21/2007
- 22 11-27-17_1333EST
- 23 Perth11/27/07
- 24 11/28/07
- 25 11/29/07
Meeting from 10/9/2007 at Oil City High School
We are going to get started monitoring our brighter T-Tauri candidates and generating light curves for them in the R and I band.
I (S. Weiser) have selecetd two targets to monitor:
SSTiau Name is 050511.5-064346, RA = 5h 5m 11.6s, DEC = -6d 43m 46.9s, Rmag = 15.3
SSTiau Name is 050517.4-063734, RA = 5h 5m 17.5s, DEC = -6d 37m 34.3s, Rmag = 16.7
Estimated exposure time - 180sec
Using http://heavens-above.com and The Sky planetarium software I've estimated we will want to be on the telescope in Perth Australia sometime between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST throughout October and November. Does everyone else agree?
Using the New Mexico Sky telescope (near El Paso, Texas), we will need to be on the telescope between 6:00 AM and 7:30 AM EST. Does everyone agree?
Meeting 10/17/07 At OCHS
These are the Targets I have chosen to monitor.-Nick_
SSTiau Name is 050730.1-061015, RA=05:07:30.2 DEC= -06:10:15.9
SSTiau Name is 050730.6-061059, RA=05:07:30.6 DEC= -06:10:59.7
Exposure time of 180secs, Viewing time from Oil City 2:00pm-5:00pm Est, will be using the Perth Telescope.
Telescope Time Reserved
FROM Tim Spuck
Sandy, I agree with you about the times for Perth and New Mexico Skies. I've reserved the following time in Perth. We can get time on New Mexico Skies as well from the folks at NOAO. Thanks, Mr. Spuck
October 22 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 23 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 24 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 25 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 26 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 27 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 28 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 29 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 30 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
October 31 18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
November 1 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 2 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 3 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 4 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 5 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 6 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 7 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 8 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 9 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 10 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 11 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 12 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 13 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 14 17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
November 15 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
November 16 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
November 17 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
November 18 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
November 19 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
November 20 17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
Failed attempt
-Nick-
First attempt to take an image using Perth Failed Due to Weather. 10/17/07
X-Dani-
My targets are
: 409 RA- 76.854562 5hr7min25.1sec DEC- -6.238076 -6d14m17.1s R Mag17.3 : 412 RA- 76.869411 5hr7min28.7sec DEC- -6.223835 -6d16m36.9s R Mag16.4 : 414 RA- 76.872387 5hr7min29.4sec DEC- -6.276916 -6d16m36.9s R Mag17.3
TUTORIAL QUESTIONS
X-Dani-
1) is it giong to be interactive or informational?
a) are people going to be able to "plug in" the information and it's going to spit out a light curve? b) is it just going to be a "follow along paper" telling them how to do it step by step?
Perth Observing results 10/22/2007
From Dani ... we tried observing T-Tauri targets using the telescope. Weather looked good at 3:32 PM EST, but telescope stated "Conditions were not sufficient for Observing". Nick K also tried earlier, but got the same results.
Observing Results 10/23/2007
FROM DANI.... Tried to image at 13:31 EST and this is what it gave me... "Process Completed There was a problem with the JPEG preview. See the console log for details. You can go to the logs area to look at or download the run log for this acquisition. Current Status RA Dec Az Alt 09:26:55 -60°00'03" 146° 27°
Run Journal/Log Output The script failed. Reasons may include.......
1) Its daytime!!! (Perth is GMT + 8 hours) 2) The weather conditions are not sufficient for observing 3) The script was aborted by the user 4) The slew coordinates drifted below the horizon 5) The scope, camera or both are not connected 6) REQUEST ABORTED BY ACP
You can see the dome through our sky camera at ..... http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/information/po_sky_camera.html
TRY - AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN ..... TRY AGAIN" .... this seems to happen alot. it happened to nick also when he tried to image just a few minutes before I did. is something wrong with the telescope? When I checked whether conditions it was clear and the windspeed was at 6.7, so the conditions should have been fine....... i tried again at 13:37 and it stated the same thing. pattern? okay, so it just toldme at 13:39 that the whether conditions were insuffecient or something along those lines... what exactly are the ideal conditions? [end of Dani post.]
Perth failure
From Nick, today I attempted to image my targets at 13:15 est and again at 15:31est. Both times the imaging failed due to some internal problem with the Perth Telescope. I then tried at 16:20est.
From Matt H, I also attempted to image my targets at 16:00 est. At this time the imaging failed for some reason that has to do with Perth Telescope
FROMDANI... I also attempted to image and got the same results as Nick and Mattheath
Targets for IC2118
MATTHEATH... #ID SSTiaum Name RA DEC RA DEC R MAG G,S,?
269 050557.8-064232 76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2 14.6 ? 283 050608.4-063917 76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4 -6 39 17.4 15.3 ?
CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s DEC : -6d 41m 00s
SANDYWEISER....
192 050511.5-064346 76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3 16.7 S 200 050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5 16.8 ?
CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s DEC : -6d 40m 45s
ALEXISMCCOOL...
401 050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9 15.1 ? 408 050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4 17.0 ?
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s DEC : -6d 15m 24s
DANIYEAGER...
409 050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1 17.3 S 412 050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8 16.4 S 414 050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9 17.3 S
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s
NICKKELLEY...
415 050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9 12.2 S 416 050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7 13.5 S
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s DEC : -6d 9m 54.0s
CALEMCCLINTOCK...
430 050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4 17.3 S 434 050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13 16.8 S
CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s DEC : -6d 17m 30s
Perth
-Nick- Once again today Perth was unable to take images, while trying to firgure out the problem with the telescope we e-mailed Perth. They responded saying that there weather sensor had goon bad and they were having trouble with the new one.
Failure
Once again today i attempted to image using perth and it is not working due to clouds and wind. Nick-11/08/08
First Images 11/09/07
Today at 1:38est I was able to get the first set of images from Perth. -Nick-
........DANIELLEYEAGER... 11/15/2007_23:57EST
What images exactly, did you collect? Only your targets or others as well?
NicK- I collect everyones field when i view, well as many as I have time to get and as long has Perth is corporateing.
practice light curve data
....DANIELLEYEAGER.. 11/15/2007_23:55EST
Would you like our practice light curves posted on here? If so, do you want our entire spread sheets as well as the graph; or just one or the other?........
RESPONSE: Dani, yes if you can post them here that would be great. Thanks, Mr. Spuck
practice light curve ....
........DANIELLEYEAGER.... 11/19/07 15:11EST
today during 7th period mr.spuck pulled the IC2118 group aside and discussed how far we had gotten with the practice light curve and the wiki.
i am almost done with my light curve. i used the HOU [hands on universe] program to collect my data. fast and easy. However, there were only 4 constants in the images, two of which being my targets. once I create the spread sheets along with the graph, I will try to find a way to get them on here along with a step by step on how I did it.
15:22EST
mr.spuck saved a file into the practice folder showing 13 reference points. i'm going to have to go back into my data and force HOU to spit out that information.
[END]
participants
..................DANIELLEYEAGER
mattheath
mattwalentosky
sandywieser
alexismcCool
daniyeager
calemcClintock
nickkelley
where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.
Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.
Location of image files for practice light curve ....
........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST All image files are locatde here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/ic2118/monitoring/
X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images ....
........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST
Using MaxIm DL or Hands On Universe Image Processing Software
These are the image coordinates for the two YSO targets and 13 common reference objects in the practice light curve data set.
X Y
YSO 1: 176, 182 +/- 3 pixels
YSO 2: 179, 144 +/- 3 pixels
REF 1: 52, 436 +/- 3 pixels
REF 2: 94, 124 +/- 3 pixels
REF 3: 99, 222 +/- 3 pixels
REF 4: 129, 399 +/- 3 pixels
REF 5: 131, 309 +/- 3 pixels
REF 6: 156, 23 +/- 3 pixels
REF 7: 164, 286 +/- 3 pixels
REF 8: 201, 35 +/- 3 pixels
REF 9: 213, 295 +/- 3 pixels
REF 10: 220, 304 +/- 3 pixels
REF 11: 290, 36 +/- 3 pixels
REF 12: 379, 449 +/- 3 pixels
REF 13: 428, 359 +/- 3 pixels
11/19/2007
Was able to image targets using Perth- Nick
11/20/2007
I was able to image both of my targets again today using Perth- Nick
11/21/2007
Today perth was unable to image my targets due to wind, and then later due to the fact the telescope was already in use. Nick
11/21/2007
When I image for all the people in the project I get everyones images-Nick
11-27-17_1333EST
.............DANIELLEYEAGER.....
FIRST ATTEMPT AT POSTING PRACTICE LIGHT CURVE.
note... to load in picture, must upload file to wiki then recall.
data table
DATE------------------A------B-------C-------D----RATIO--RATIO C--RATIO D
03-13-0803-002...818..1510..5207..8083...1164......4.47.......6.94
03-13-0803-001...869..1429..5144..8316...1149......4.48.......7.76
03-09-0848-001...760..2853..8800..17440..1806.5....4.73.......9.65
03-09-0844-001...727..1024..3927..7418...884.5.....4.44.......8.39
03-09-0806-001...976..911...4144..7703...943.5.....4.39.......8.16
03-16-0803-001..1271..1179..5153..7797...1225......4.21.......6.36
03-15-0810-002..1046..1340..3302..8867...1193......2.77.......7.43
03-14-0800-003..1721..2731..10831..19584..2226......4.87......8.8
03-14-0800-002..1028..700...5026...8916...864.......5.82.....10.32
03-14-0800-001..1158..658...4760...8565...908.......5.24......9.43
03-13-0803-003...942..1634..5424...7877...1288......4.21......6.12
revised data table
DATE----------------RATIO C-----RATIO D
03-13-0803-002----- 4.47----- 6.94
03-13-0803-001----- 4.48----- 7.76
03-09-0848-001----- 4.73----- 9.65
03-09-0844-001----- 4.44----- 8.39
03-09-0806-001----- 4.39----- 8.16
03-16-0803-001----- 4.21----- 6.36
03-15-0810-002----- 2.77----- 7.43
03-14-0800-003----- 4.87----- 8.8
03-14-0800-002----- 5.82----- 10.32
03-14-0800-001----- 5.24----- 9.43
03-13-0803-003----- 4.21----- 6.12
GRAPH IS IMAGE LOADED INTO PHOTOBUCKET.COM AND THEN SAVED TO THE WIKI AS GRAPH.JPG.... THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION I COULD COME UP WITH AS TO POSTING A PICTURE OF THE GRAPH. ANY IDEAS OR OTHER OPTIONS??
.......11/30/07 1017est......... okay, so I made a really REALLY beginner mistake and completly forgot about the fact that I had to use julian date. SOOO.. I will post a new thread with the updated information.
.....11/30/07 1042EST.............. i guess it's just a day for mistakes. i was using the file image name rather than the date and time from the header. so, i have to do the dates over again AND THEN convert into julian time. [personal note to be deleted later.... 43 min.]
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST]
Perth11/27/07
Once again the Telescope at perth is not imageing. nick
11/28/07
Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1308est as well as at 1630est Nick.
11/29/07
Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1318est Nick.