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== Meeting from 10/9/2007 at Oil City High School ==
 
 
We are going to get started monitoring our brighter T-Tauri candidates and generating light curves for them in the R and I band.
 
 
I (S. Weiser) have selecetd two targets to monitor:
 
 
SSTiau Name is 050511.5-064346, RA = 5h 5m 11.6s, DEC = -6d 43m 46.9s, Rmag = 15.3
 
 
SSTiau Name is 050517.4-063734, RA = 5h 5m 17.5s, DEC = -6d 37m 34.3s, Rmag = 16.7
 
 
Estimated exposure time - 180sec
 
 
Using http://heavens-above.com and The Sky planetarium software I've estimated we will want to be on the telescope in Perth Australia sometime between 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM EST throughout October and November.  Does everyone else agree?
 
 
Using the New Mexico Sky telescope (near El Paso, Texas), we will need to be on the telescope between 6:00 AM and 7:30 AM EST.  Does everyone agree?
 
 
== Meeting 10/17/07 At OCHS ==
 
 
 
These are the Targets I have chosen to monitor.-Nick_
 
 
SSTiau Name is 050730.1-061015, RA=05:07:30.2 DEC= -06:10:15.9
 
 
SSTiau Name is 050730.6-061059, RA=05:07:30.6 DEC= -06:10:59.7
 
 
Exposure time of 180secs, Viewing time from Oil City 2:00pm-5:00pm Est, will be using the Perth Telescope.
 
 
== Telescope Time Reserved ==
 
 
FROM Tim Spuck
 
 
Sandy, I agree with you about the times for Perth and New Mexico Skies.  I've reserved the following time in Perth.  We can get time on New Mexico Skies as well from the folks at NOAO.  Thanks, Mr. Spuck
 
 
October 22      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 23      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 24      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 25      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 26      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 27      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 28      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 29      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 30      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
October 31      18:00 UT – 20:00 UT
 
 
November 1    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 2    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 3    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 4    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 5    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 6    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 7    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 8    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 9    17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 10  17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 11  17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 12  17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 13  17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 14  17:30 UT – 19:30 UT
 
 
November 15  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
November 16  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
November 17  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
November 18  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
November 19  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
November 20  17:00 UT – 19:00 UT
 
 
== Failed attempt ==
 
 
-Nick-
 
    First attempt to take an image using Perth Failed Due to Weather. 10/17/07
 
------------------------------------
 
 
''X-Dani-''
 
 
My targets are
 
      : 409 RA- 76.854562 5hr7min25.1sec  DEC- -6.238076 -6d14m17.1s R Mag17.3
 
      : 412 RA- 76.869411 5hr7min28.7sec  DEC- -6.223835 -6d16m36.9s R Mag16.4
 
      : 414 RA- 76.872387 5hr7min29.4sec  DEC- -6.276916 -6d16m36.9s R Mag17.3
 
 
== TUTORIAL QUESTIONS ==
 
''X-Dani-''
 
 
1) is it giong to be interactive or informational?
 
    a) are people going to be able to "plug in" the information and it's going to spit out a light curve?
 
  b) is it just going to be a "follow along paper" telling them how to do it step by step?
 
 
== Perth Observing results 10/22/2007 ==
 
 
From Dani ... we tried observing T-Tauri targets using the telescope.  Weather looked good at 3:32 PM EST, but telescope stated "Conditions were not sufficient for Observing".    Nick K also tried earlier, but got the same results.
 
 
== Observing Results 10/23/2007 ==
 
 
FROM DANI.... Tried to image at 13:31 EST and this is what it gave me...
 
"Process Completed
 
There was a problem with the JPEG preview. See the console log for details. You can go to the logs area to look at or download the run log for this acquisition.
 
Current Status
 
RA Dec Az Alt
 
09:26:55 -60°00'03" 146° 27°
 
 
Run Journal/Log Output
 
The script failed. Reasons may include.......
 
 
1) Its daytime!!! (Perth is GMT + 8 hours)
 
2) The weather conditions are not sufficient for observing
 
3) The script was aborted by the user
 
4) The slew coordinates drifted below the horizon
 
5) The scope, camera or both are not connected
 
6) REQUEST ABORTED BY ACP
 
 
You can see the dome through our sky camera at .....
 
http://www.perthobservatory.wa.gov.au/information/po_sky_camera.html
 
 
TRY - AGAIN  ..... TRY AGAIN  ..... TRY AGAIN" .... this seems to happen alot. it happened to nick also when he tried to image just a few minutes before I did. is something wrong with the telescope? When I checked whether conditions it was clear and the windspeed was at 6.7, so the conditions should have been fine....... i tried again at 13:37 and it stated the same thing. pattern? okay, so it just toldme at 13:39 that the whether conditions were insuffecient or something along those lines... ''what exactly are the ideal conditions?'' [end of Dani post.]
 
 
== Perth failure ==
 
 
From Nick, today I attempted to image my targets at 13:15 est and again at 15:31est.        Both times the imaging failed due to some internal problem with the Perth Telescope. I then tried at 16:20est.
 
 
 
 
From Matt H, I also attempted to image my targets at 16:00 est. At this time the imaging failed for some reason that has to do with Perth Telescope
 
 
 
FROMDANI... I also attempted to image and got the same results as Nick and Mattheath
 
 
== Targets for IC2118 ==
 
 
MATTHEATH... #ID  SSTiaum Name        RA        DEC      RA      DEC        R MAG      G,S,?
 
            269  050557.8-064232  76.490978 -6.708933 5 5 57.8 -6 42 32.2    14.6      ?
 
            283  050608.4-063917  76.535202 -6.654822 5 6 8.4  -6 39 17.4    15.3      ?
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 6m 3.4s  DEC : -6d 41m 00s
 
 
 
SANDYWEISER....
 
          192  050511.5-064346  76.298234 -6.72965 5 5 11.7 -6 37 34.3    16.7        S
 
          200  050517.4-063734 76.322813 -6.626197 5 5 17.5 -6 23 8.5    16.8        ?
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 5m 14.6s  DEC : -6d 40m 45s
 
 
ALEXISMCCOOL...
 
        401  050711.5-061509 76.798211 -6.252738 5 5 7 11.6 -6 15 9.9    15.1        ?
 
        408  050723.3-061538 76.847362 -6.260664 5 7 23.4 -6 15 38.4    17.0        ?
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 17.6s  DEC : -6d 15m 24s
 
 
 
DANIYEAGER...
 
      409  050725.0-061417 76.854562 -6.238076 5 7 25.1 -6 14 17.1  17.3        S
 
      412  050728.6-061325 76.869411 -6.22385 5 7 28.7 -6 13 25.8    16.4        S
 
      414  050729.3-061636 76.872387 -6.276916 5 7 29.4 -6 16 36.9  17.3        S
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 28.7s  DEC : -6d 13m 25.8s
 
 
NICKKELLEY...
 
      415  050730.1-061015 76.8757 -6.171072 5 7 30.2 -6 10 15.9  12.2        S
 
      416  050730.6-061059 76.87754 -6.183262 5 7 30.6 -6 10 59.7  13.5        S
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 7m 44.6s  DEC :  -6d 9m 54.0s
 
 
CALEMCCLINTOCK...
 
    430  050800.4-062047 77.001885 -6.346496 5 8 0.5 -6 20 47.4  17.3      S
 
    434  050809.5-061412 77.039924 -6.236934 5 8 9.6 -6 14 13    16.8      S
 
 
CENTER -- RA : 5h 8m 5s  DEC : -6d 17m 30s
 
 
== Perth ==
 
 
-Nick- Once again today Perth was unable to take images, while trying to firgure out the problem with the telescope we e-mailed Perth. They responded saying that there weather sensor had goon bad and they were having trouble with the new one.
 
 
== Failure ==
 
 
Once again today i attempted to image using perth and it is not working due to clouds and wind. Nick-11/08/08
 
 
== First Images 11/09/07 ==
 
 
Today at 1:38est I was able to get the first set of images from Perth. -Nick-
 
 
 
........DANIELLEYEAGER... 11/15/2007_23:57EST
 
 
What images exactly, did you collect? Only your targets or others as well?
 
 
NicK- I collect everyones field when i view, well as many as I have time to get and as long has Perth is corporateing.
 
 
== practice light curve data ==
 
 
''....DANIELLEYEAGER.. 11/15/2007_23:55EST
 
 
 
Would you like our practice light curves posted on here? If so, do you want our entire spread sheets as well as the graph; or just one or the other?........''
 
 
RESPONSE:  Dani, yes if you can post them here that would be great.  Thanks, Mr. Spuck
 
 
== practice light curve .... ==
 
 
'''''........DANIELLEYEAGER.... 11/19/07 15:11EST'''''
 
 
today during 7th period mr.spuck pulled the IC2118 group aside and discussed how far we had gotten with the practice light curve and the wiki.
 
 
i am almost done with my light curve. i used the HOU [hands on universe] program to collect my data. fast and easy. However, there were only 4 constants in the images, two of which being my targets. once I create the spread sheets along with the graph, I will try to find a way to get them on here along with a step by step on how I did it.
 
 
 
'''''15:22EST'''''
 
 
mr.spuck saved a file into the practice folder showing 13 reference points. i'm going to have to go back into my data and force HOU to spit out that information.
 
 
 
'''''[END]'''''
 
 
== participants ==
 
 
'''''..................DANIELLEYEAGER'''''
 
 
 
 
''mattheath''
 
 
''mattwalentosky''
 
 
''sandywieser''
 
 
''alexismcCool''
 
 
''daniyeager''
 
 
''calemcClintock''
 
 
''nickkelley''
 
 
 
where is everyone? nick and I seem to be the only ones posting.
 
 
Nick- I agree with Dani if other participants want to be a part of this communication is vital.
 
 
== Location of image files for practice light curve .... ==
 
 
'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''
 
All image files are locatde here: http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/rebull/ic2118/monitoring/
 
 
 
== X,Y postion of YSO targets and REF objects in images .... ==
 
 
'''''........Spuck.... 11/19/07 15:30EST'''''
 
 
 
Using MaxIm DL or Hands On Universe Image Processing Software
 
 
These are the image coordinates for the two YSO targets and 13 common reference objects in the practice light curve data set.
 
 
X Y
 
 
YSO 1: 176, 182 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
YSO 2: 179, 144 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 1: 52, 436 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 2: 94, 124 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 3: 99, 222 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 4: 129, 399 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 5: 131, 309 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 6: 156, 23 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 7: 164, 286 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 8: 201, 35 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 9: 213, 295 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 10:         220, 304 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 11:         290, 36 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 12:         379, 449 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
REF 13:         428, 359 +/- 3 pixels
 
 
== 11/19/2007 ==
 
 
Was able to image targets using Perth- Nick
 
 
== 11/20/2007 ==
 
 
I was able to image both of my targets again today using Perth- Nick
 
 
== 11/21/2007 ==
 
 
Today perth was unable to image my targets due to wind, and then later due to the fact the telescope was already in use. Nick
 
 
== 11/21/2007 ==
 
 
When I image for all the people in the project I get everyones images-Nick
 
 
== 11-27-17_1333EST ==
 
 
.............DANIELLEYEAGER.....
 
 
 
 
FIRST ATTEMPT AT POSTING PRACTICE LIGHT CURVE.
 
 
 
 
note... to load in picture, must upload file to wiki then recall.
 
 
 
data table
 
 
 
 
DATE------------------A------B-------C-------D----RATIO--RATIO C--RATIO D
 
 
03-13-0803-002...818..1510..5207..8083...1164......4.47.......6.94
 
 
03-13-0803-001...869..1429..5144..8316...1149......4.48.......7.76
 
 
03-09-0848-001...760..2853..8800..17440..1806.5....4.73.......9.65
 
 
03-09-0844-001...727..1024..3927..7418...884.5.....4.44.......8.39
 
 
03-09-0806-001...976..911...4144..7703...943.5.....4.39.......8.16
 
 
03-16-0803-001..1271..1179..5153..7797...1225......4.21.......6.36
 
 
03-15-0810-002..1046..1340..3302..8867...1193......2.77.......7.43
 
 
03-14-0800-003..1721..2731..10831..19584..2226......4.87......8.8
 
 
03-14-0800-002..1028..700...5026...8916...864.......5.82.....10.32
 
 
03-14-0800-001..1158..658...4760...8565...908.......5.24......9.43
 
 
03-13-0803-003...942..1634..5424...7877...1288......4.21......6.12
 
 
 
revised data table
 
 
DATE----------------RATIO C-----RATIO D
 
 
03-13-0803-002-----  4.47----- 6.94
 
 
03-13-0803-001-----  4.48----- 7.76
 
 
03-09-0848-001----- 4.73----- 9.65
 
 
03-09-0844-001----- 4.44----- 8.39
 
 
03-09-0806-001----- 4.39----- 8.16
 
 
03-16-0803-001----- 4.21----- 6.36
 
 
03-15-0810-002----- 2.77----- 7.43
 
 
03-14-0800-003----- 4.87----- 8.8
 
 
03-14-0800-002----- 5.82----- 10.32
 
 
03-14-0800-001----- 5.24----- 9.43
 
 
03-13-0803-003----- 4.21----- 6.12
 
 
 
[[Image:GRAPH.jpg]]
 
 
 
GRAPH IS IMAGE LOADED INTO PHOTOBUCKET.COM AND THEN SAVED TO THE WIKI AS GRAPH.JPG.... THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION I COULD COME UP WITH AS TO POSTING A PICTURE OF THE GRAPH. ANY IDEAS OR OTHER OPTIONS??
 
 
.......11/30/07 1017est......... okay, so I made a really REALLY beginner mistake and completly forgot about the fact that I had to use julian date. SOOO.. I will post a new thread with the updated information.
 
 
.....11/30/07 1042EST.............. i guess it's just a day for mistakes. i was using the file image name rather than the date and time from the header. so, i have to do the dates over again AND THEN convert into julian time.
 
 
 
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST]
 
 
== Perth11/27/07 ==
 
 
Once again the Telescope at perth is not imageing.
 
nick
 
 
== 11/28/07 ==
 
 
Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1308est as well as at 1630est Nick.
 
 
== 11/29/07 ==
 
 
Perth is down again today. Unable to acquire new images. 1318est Nick.
 
 
== Practice Light Curve and Loop Problem ==
 
 
..............DANIELLEYEAGER  11/30/07 1336EST
 
 
After figuring the Julian Date for the data, the light curve started to loop. By loop, I mean that the dates stacked fairly close to right above one another and circled through them forming a loop. By this loop problem, I've made the assumption that if a set of data has several points that are seconds or minutes apart, the data will loop. To solve the loop problem I averaged together the points that formed the loop and had that as my point. Doing so decreased my data points severely, but did work in achieving my desired goal.
 
 
 
NOTE .... when uploading pictures make sure to use EXACT title. example.. if the file name is uploaded as graph2.JPG you must type exactly, example capatalizing the JPG.
 
 
NEW DATA TABLE AND GRAPH
 
 
JULIAN DATE..... RATIO C..... RATIO D
 
 
2454168.838........ 4.52............ 8.73
 
 
2454172.835........ 4.386...........6.94
 
 
2454173.833........ 5.31............ 9.52
 
 
2454174.84.......... 2.77............ 7.43
 
 
2454175.835........ 4.21............ 6.36
 
 
[[Image:graph2.JPG]]
 
 
[END OF DANIELLYEAGER POST]
 
 
== 11/30/07  practicing posting ==
 
 
.......DANIELLYEAGER..... ALEXISMCCOOL... JENNIFERBUTCHART....  1509 EST
 
 
 
to use an image upload file and then insert using the word Image with a colon after words and then the file name, entire thing surrounded by two closed brackets.
 
 
example.
 
 
[[Image:graph2.JPG]]
 
 
 
bullet points
 
*one
 
**two
 
***three
 
 
You should be commenting on your progress daily to every other day.
 
 
PERSON---type your question.
 
 
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]
 
 
== 11/30/07__2257 est ==
 
 
.......DANIELLYEAGER..........
 
 
Access available from fathers house. Security problem under control. It was because of the http's'... does anyone have any questions about the wiki or the practice light curve? post what you can. if you need to, get ahold of me this weekend. Just a quick reminder that all 25 hours must be completly by Friday December 7th.  [personal note to be deleted later. 15 min.]
 
 
[END OF DANIELLEYEAGER POST.]
 

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